Well, I kinda agree although if you use Psycho-Stats you need these things anyway. Let's say, for arguments sake, that VALVe institutes a stats system of it's own that requires a database and web server (let's not get into PHP right now). Including a database into the installer is easy (mySQL, Access, or other), then the requirement would be for the admin to install the web server of his choice. These could be controlled through optional install parameters.
Obviously it is never this simple, but the point remains, it is feasible and not overly difficult to implement. The questions still remains, should VALVe do it themselves, or rely on 3rd parties to do it for them? If they rely on 3rd parties, then they need a better medium with which to control and test changes. Many server admins (and players) use and rely on stats. They are an important part of the system, so should be supported as much as anything else. Although I would much rather see VAC2 instead of stats. This is much more important. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hexis Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Can anyone tell me how i can activate Stats On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 11:10:32AM -0500, Rice, Rick wrote: > I disagree with Hexis, stats SHOULD be a standard part of HLDS. This does > not mean that VALVe needs to develop a stats system, just incorporate one > that already exists, such as Psycho-Stats (my favorite). Have the HLDS > installer incorporate it in by default and give the admin the ability to > turn them on/off at will. > > Don't re-invent the wheel, use what is already available. Make life easier > for the admins, old and new. Since PsychoStats requires a database, php and a web server, should Valve write a web server to go with the stats package? And you need to store the data in a DB, guess they will have to re-write a version of SQL. If it's fully intergrated, you can't expect a user to have to install a web server or database as well, right? Let alone a web server, PHP, GD2 and a database. Stats are a complex beast. Valve makes all of the data avaliable via the logs. PsychoStats is out there, and there are others. As you said, why re-invent the wheel? Getting stats working will probably never be as simple as: "sv_statistics 1" Maybe if updates break the stats packages, Valve could do a slightly better job of communicating upcoming changes so the parsers could know about format changes ahead of time. -- Hexis www.hxxl.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
