I agree once a cheater always a cheater. Make him pay for his mistakes by
making him buy another copy of the game that way valve get richer and
hopfully invest more time and effort into VAC2 making us server admins
happier.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: 30 March 2005 15:07
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Suggestion for VAC2.


Umm no

WTF would you want to give little cheating pricks any leniancy whatsoever?

What drugs are you on?

If you are not on drugs start thinking about taking some!

Cheating is the biggest #1 scourge of online gaming

Valve screw up, thats a given, but cheating and the problems they
cause are and entirely different order of magintude than any other
problem players and server adminstrators face today and in the future.


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:56:46 +0100, Fred - Prism128
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well the server would have to have VAC2 turned on (i think)? apart from
that
> i dunno.
>
> erm, IMO, cheaters should be given a warning, like a little popup,
> client-side, that says "VAC2 caught ur cheat, do it again and ur banned",
> and maybe a temporary ban of 1 week... cos some people just do not listen
to
> warnings... this would also help if, say, a friend, relative or whoever
put
> a cheat on ur CSS without you knowing... kinda unfair to instant-perm-ban
in
> my opinion... ;-)
>
> --------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pawel Dabrowski
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Suggestion for VAC2.
>
> Anyone know if server admins will know if someone was banned on their
server
> or not?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alexander
> Kobbevik
> Sent: 30 March 2005 12:03
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [hlds] Suggestion for VAC2.
>
> I been away from this list for a while and after seeing the last update
> notice I ran back.
>
> Can I make a suggestion for VAC2, please?
>
> I know its only fair to warn before inserting a new system that will try
to
> catch cheaters.
> I also know that it's the right way to do it when you are acctually trying
> to get more players, and not less.
>
> But, here goes.
>
> What if you update VAC2... but only record cheats until the next update.
> Then you ban the collected list and start a new recording after the new
VAC2
> update.
> This way you create a fear for cheating... which is one of the most
> successfull ways of stopping people from trying to cheat...
>
> They can't just have someone else check if the cheat gets detected first,
> then use it until the next VAC2 update.
>
> To me this sounds like a really good idea, but it popped up an hour ago
> while reading the archive.. so maybe I missed some side affect...
>
> If people comment on this idea, maybe valve will consider it?
>
> -Alexander
> [GNIZ]
>
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