So in a nutshell you're a 16-year old kid using momma's credit card to get a
$200/mth server in TP/SM. On it you run servers that NEVER fill up for no
other reason than IT'S IMPOSSIBLE! Instead of concentrating on giving
players the best experience possible you're blowing your momma's money by
running empty servers. You come here flaunting base-less claims of "I run
20-35 servers and you don't cuz you suckzor!" We, meaning anybody with more
than double-digits in IQ points, don't run 20-35 servers on one box because
our clients actually PLAY on these servers. You show 2% usage because
percentage-wise your player slots are less than 10%. Our previous challenge
still stands. You show us 200 players PLAYING on your server and we'll
figure you know something that all of us don't. Since that is completely
impossible we laugh between each other knowing you're a disillusioned idiot.
Just like he said. You CAN run 50 servers on a box...but you CAN'T fill them
up. In your screenshot you boasted to all of us in your first claim that
blatantly showed you to be completely incompetent I plainly pointed out that
you had about 30 or so players on the server and you were running 50% system
resources. Then, of course, you blamed that on the ignorance of MicroSoft.
I'm pretty sure that I speak for all of us when I say that if you have
something constructive to say then by all means say it and then go away. If
you have nothing more constructive to say that childish flames based on your
incompetence and inexperience you should just go away.

I'll leave your name unblocked for a couple more days just so I can see you
make more of an ass of yourself cuz it makes me laugh. After that time
though anything you say will head straight to the junk box. So ultimately,
even if you said anything intelligent in the future (highly unlikely) a lot
of us won't even here it. You need to grow up, read up, and spend your time
constructively learning how to provide your players with GOOD servers
instead of boasting claims that all GSP's are evil. One of our initial
intensions was to be in direct competition to GameDaemons and GriffinRUN
because the fees they charge are indeed outrageous. We're doing just fine
and every week makes us bigger, more well known, and adding to our clientele
people who have been hosted by idiots like you charging 10-15 bucks a month
to host their servers that go to shit every Friday-Sunday. We don't hate you
kid....we LOVE what you're doing. So by all means keep pissing people off
cuz we're just getting bigger and bigger with clients that want
services/servers they can COUNT on and that are backed by our guarantee that
their servers are up 24/7/365 and latency is a concern they'll never have to
be worried about again. All of your servers have YOUR name on them...I see
none of them named to indicate that anybody wants YOU to run a server for
them. So at least your ignorance hasn't infected too many people yet. Maybe
you'll last and maybe you'll just drift away into the shadows of the net but
either way you'll one day learn that when you support clients in the real
world you have to INSURE that the experience they pay for can be delivered
24/7/365. We can do that. You have a $200+/mth server pretty much
empty...kinda says it all doesn't it.

Ray S.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian mu
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Server at ~70 fps. -tickrate fps_max questions

Your argument doesn't hold as has been explained several times before
in different threads.

No one has ever said you can't run 20 servers (if they did, they
probably misexplained), what they typically mean is you can't run 20
servers AND have them busy with decent settings. If you have enough
ram you can run shed loads no one disagrees, but it doesn't matter
when they get full its the server instances with players on and how
many players on each that build up. The empty ones (to a point) are
fairly negligable.

What you seem to be saying is that you can run 35 servers with most of
them empty, whilst a GSP can run a lot less and have a lot greater
average use. Typically if a clan pays for a server, they want to make
decent use of it. If a GSP could get away with running 35 servers and
only 10 were ever in use, they would do it, just as with normal
contention, so you're argument doesn't hold.Yours only holds by having
enough server instances running and NOT used concurrently, which is no
use to man nor beast (well can think of a few uses and "nice" ideas
you can do with it.

On Apr 5, 2005 6:22 PM, wArgOd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yet another assinine retort from yet another flamer jerk that hates the
> idea that anyone who wants to can run a damn good set of servers for
> diddly compared to what the GSPs charge for crappy laggy rental servers.
>
> Well here is your chance Whisper.
> Prove that these 20 playable servers are not running on one dual xeon
> host with 2GB RAM:
>
> No, wait, better than that, I'll run 35 servers on the host just so you
> can see them running.
> Maybe you can get up enough people to join and we can see where the lag
> point is with 35 servers.
> If not then you need to STFU and try having respect for others.
>
> All 35 servers are now running on one dual xeon 2.8Ghz/2GB Ram Windows
> 2000 host at theplanet in Dallas, Texas:
> Host just rebooted and 23 players are already online.
> Physical Memory (k): 2096560
> Commit Charge Total (k): 1857860
> Current aggregate CPU:  2%
>
> Let's find out where the breaking point is....
>
> Server Listing:
> 70.85.25.116:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 01 - 24*7 de_dust_xl_b1
> 70.85.25.117:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 02 - 24*7
glassfloor_kdr
> 70.85.25.118:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 03 - 24*7 mcdonalds_mds
> 70.85.25.119:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 04 - 24*7 cs_xcom
> 70.85.25.120:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 05 - CS_Assault_Lith2
> LO-G 24*7
> 70.85.25.121:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 06 - 24*7
> CS_MountainAbode_Lith
> 70.85.25.122:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 07 - 24*7 cs_xcom
> 70.85.25.123:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 08 - 24*7 awp_subzero
> 70.85.25.124:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 09 - 24*7 awp_subzero
> 70.85.25.125:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 10 - 24*7 awp_subzero
> 70.85.25.126:27015   *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 11 - 24*7
> scoutzknivez LO-G
> 70.85.38.80:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 12 - 24*7
> scoutzknivez LO-G
> 70.85.38.81:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 13 - 24*7
> scoutzknivez LO-G
> 70.85.38.82:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 14 - 24*7
> scoutzknivez LO-G
> 70.85.38.83:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 15 - 24*7
glassfloor_kdr
> 70.85.38.84:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 16 - 24*7 wallhacks
> 70.85.38.85:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 17 - 24*7 Rats &
Bedbugs
> 70.85.38.86:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 18 - 24*7 de_view
> 70.85.38.87:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 19 - 24*7
> cs_code_name_otter
> 70.85.38.88:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 20 - 24*7
> cs_code_name_otter
> 70.85.38.89:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 21 - 24*7
> cs_grenadefrenzy2
> 70.85.38.90:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 22 - 24*7 wallhacks
> 70.85.38.91:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 23 - 24*7 de_inkas
> 70.85.38.92:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 24 - 24*7
> de_saints_courthouse
> 70.85.38.93:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 25 - 24*7 awp_india
> 70.85.38.94:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 26 - 24*7
awp_canal_beta
> 70.85.38.95:27015    *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 27 - 24*7 cs_reflex3
> 70.85.122.144:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 28 - 24*7 cs_depository
> 70.85.122.145:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 29 - 24*7 de_bridge
> 70.85.122.146:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 30 - 24*7 de_shafted
> 70.85.122.147:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 31 - 24*7
de_speedball_b2
> 70.85.122.148:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 32 - 24*7 alamo_mds
> 70.85.122.149:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 33 - 24*7 de_Markham
> 70.85.122.150:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 34 - 24*7 wallhacks
> 70.85.122.151:27015  *E|M|F* Clan CS:Source Server 35 - 24*7
de_speedball_b2
>
>
> Whisper wrote:
>
> >sigh
> >
> >Please just go away with your running 20 HLDS/SRCDS server complete
> >and utter bullshit
> >
> >Nobody cares about anything you have to say on this issue
> >
> >We all think you are full of complete and utter crap every time you
> >spew this excrement!
> >
> >
> >
>
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