Cheers.. glad it worked!
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dexion Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 7:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds You see its those little tidbits that are what makes this forum worth while. To all concerned, disabling dep for the hlds executable enables it to be run without crashing out. It now acts like a pre sp1 box with hlds. Testing has been extensive. Thanks kevin n. that's what the problem seems to have been. dex -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 6:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds This is the article I read page 2 talks about dell http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1787985,00.asp >From the sounds of it you might want to disable DEP protection in total; or just for hlds and see if it helps. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dexion Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 3:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds Now that is interesting. Luckily I have the platinum level support. But it erks me to call someone to help. I have actually succeeded in getting a cs 1.6 server to run, but I HAD to add metamod. But then there is another problem, once I add amxmodx the server crashes again. If I disable all the plugins (stock ones) it starts and runs. That is where I had to end (due to time issues) my troubleshooting for the time being. I will pick this back up over the weekend. Do you have a link to the dell thing? dex -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds I also heard many Poweredge systems have been having issues with SP1 in general. (I can't speak to it directly as I dont have any dell systems, all cpq\hp here, however mary jo at "microsoft watch" reported on the dell thing last week. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dexion Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 5:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds they are all identical poweredge 1850's with dual 2.8's 2gigs of ram and raid 1 scsi drives. I have been reading about all the applications sp1 is causing trouble with. Apparently microsoft put out a list of 147 and how to get them working again. The vast majority have to do with changed security permissions that sp1 invokes upon install. Still working on this. But perhaps making headroom. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Napier, Kevin Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds What's the hardware your using here? proc's and make\model of systems in question.. are they the same or similar on all the test systems? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dexion Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 5:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds ive seen the maxplayer switch represented with both a + and a - some are interchangable. Ive used -maxplayers for years. The memory in the boxes is buffered, registered ecc. Also, keep in mind i can replicate the fault on any of the 5 boxes I have tested on. If I want to make it now work I just install sp1. Remove it and it will work again. I cant see memory being bad in all the boxes unless sp1 does something with timings perhaps. But on a lighter note source does work with sp1 or now. Its only hlds. I will add the -dev switch and see now...nada I dont actually get any logs at all even though i have the log on switch. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds Then the only left to try is to replace the "-" in front of "maxplayers" with a "+" as you are using an improper switch command. :) (Had to go look at my command lines to make sure before I replied) And yes I run multiple boxes all using Win2K3 w/ SP1. I think the "-" is the problem. Let me go test that theory...... Odd, in replacing my "+" with "-" I do not receive the error that you do. I will not form my start line in the exact order you have yours.... Ok, scratch that idea. Runs fine. Well, bottom line is, both HLDS and SCRDS will run on Win2K3 w/ SP1. If you have modified your security settings that could be a possible culprit. It could be related to the user permissions you're running it from or some type of local policy you have implemented. Last possible options I could see would be a corrupt MEM chip. I would've said a corrupt map file but you claim to have pulled a fresh copy and received the same results. Beyond that, can't explain it. Try adding the "-dev" to the command line and see if more information is reported in the log file when it blows up. I look forward to seeing the end results of your dilemma. Ray S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dexion Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds in the subsequent time since last writing, I have done a fresh install of the cs/hl1 files, it has the same result. Then, I took the new files and transferred them to another machine with no sp1. Those files ran fine on the other machines. I don't think it has anything to do with the hl or cs1.6 files (bad or corrupt) since they can be transferred from any machine (remember there are 3 with sp1 installed) all 3 of them with sp1 installed, will not run hlds. Additionally I installed sp1 on a functional but empty (new) server after verifying hlds runs. Once sp1 was finished installing after the reboot, it was unable to run the files it had just run previously. I've been hosting since cs 3.0 and am aware of the steam process and how to update and maintain the files. I think I can rule out the individual files or installs of the gameserver itself given they work fine on any machine without sp1, not on any machine with sp1, but will function on those machines if sp1 is uninstalled. Does anyone or do you have sp1 on windows 2003 standard that can run hlds? And if so have you tweaked the security settings? I've not posted here until I exhausted my normal troubleshooting procedures. And also just for the heck of it I verified the install, it didn't feel it had to download anything. A little more information. The gameservers will run up, it does download the security update from speakeasy, then reports the server is in secure mode. Once that happens usually one would see the player count and map at the top of the dos window. That is the point that the server just shuts down with the previous error. Additionally, I have tried just for the heck of it to not have the server in insecure mode, it has the same result. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 1:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds Let's start by insuring that the "ghost" image of the server is accurate. Go to a machine that is NOT able to run under SP1. Here do one of two things. Either "-verify" the files or pull a new copy of the entire server. Let's do something less detailed and that has a higher probability of accuracy. Copy the hldsupdatetool.exe file to a folder. Let's say c:\gameservers\test. Now run this command line instruction: "c:\gameservers\test\hldsupdatetool.exe -command -update -game cstrike -dir c:\gameservers\test\cs1". This will pull a fresh copy of the CS 1.6 files to this computer. After which execute the command line that you have quoted in your previous communication. IF any error is noted then there is something amiss. IF no errors are reported then it would be safe to assume that the "ghost" of your server is not complete/accurate. In that event, on the computer you refer to previously, place the hldsupdatetool.exe in the "c:\gameservers" location. Then execute the following command: "c:\gameservers\hldsupdatetool.exe -command update -game cstrike -dir c:\gameservers\cs -verify_all". This will check each of the files for accuracy and insure that the copy is indeed adequate for running the server. After which you may attempt to run the server again with the command line execute you quoted and report back to this list again. Ray S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dexion Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 10:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds I know what you you mean, I couldnt really think it was sp1 also. Here is some background the boxes are absolutely identical (they are actually a ghost of each other.) 12 contain w2k3 patched all the way up except sp1 3 contain w2k3 with sp1 All have the same virus scan and programs installed, and are running exactly the same hl1, hl2, and cod files. (I have a central install box) All have the same settings except whatever sp1 sets as default security settings. I have attempted to run cs 1.6. I use the same command line on all the serverers except for the ip the command line is: c:\gameservers\cs\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike -maxplayers 20 +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx +map de_dust I have tried the -nojoy and -noipx also no result. The error is : category 100 event id 1000 Faulting application hlds.exe, version 4.1.1.1, faulting module hlds.exe Here is the dr watson event id : 4097 The application, C:\gameservers\cs\hlds\hlds.exe, generated an application error The error occurred on 04/19/2005 @ 21:20:50.828 The exception generated was c0000005 at address 01705828 (hlds!CreateInterface) Now to resolve this, I simply uninstalled sp1 and patched the machine up to where the others are. The same files, and the same command line now work. Install sp1 and then they stop working again with this error. If it is not related to sp1, I'm stumped as to what else it could be. I am sure there must be a way to get it running with sp1 perhaps a heapsize setting or some such. Its good to know that srcds and cod work fine though. dex -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds "HL1"? Please define the mod you want to run. We have multiple Win2K3 servers with SP1 and all are running fine. I would suspect something amiss in your pull of the files or with your command startup line before I would suspect SP1 having anything to do with it. There may be something else going on in the OS that would prevent it running but I can't attribute it to SP1 without some further information. Let's start with your command line (minus any sensitive information) and a copy of the errors you are receiving. Ray S. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dexion Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [hlds] Windows 2003 with sp1 = no hlds Hi, I have several new computers with w2k3 server. I have implemented 3 with sp1 on new installs. They are unable to run hlds (hl1) the server starts, but then shuts down with an exception in the event log. These machines are identical. The ones with no sp1 can run it fine, once I uninstalled sp1 from one of the machines it is able to run hlds again. Reinstall it and it wont run. It appears hlds has an issue with sp1 on w2k3. By the way srcds runs fine as do other dedicated servers. It apparently is just hlds. Anyone get hlds (hl1) working on w2k3 sp1? dex _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
