That sounds cool. I passed word along to Beetle to come discuss the matter in here, to see if you guys can come up with some cool solution. Maybe some folks here can pass the word on to other Mod authors like Mani as well?
And just for feedback purposes, most, if not all, players on our server very much like the menu system Beetle has implemented for votes, tk punishment, betting etc. It definately seems to be a positive enhancement to the game. We recently had BeetleMod off for a short time, troubleshooting a prob on the server and everyone was disappointed that the menu based stuff was gone (even for just a short time). So hopefully you guys can work out some kind of solution on this that satisfies everyone's needs. -Artie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 2:00 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update I would love the authors of these programs to contact me and discuss their needs. We are trying to minimise the visual clutter that plugins introduce in the game, but we are always flexible (we will not tie ourselves to maintaining out of date code just because they found a way to trigger it however). - Alfred ----Original Message---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of artiecs Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update > Alfred, would it be possible for you guys to provide to the plugin > writers, via the API, the ability to continue creating the menus they > currently use, in addition to the ESC menu capabilities? I know it > sounds like you don't appreciate their current implementation method, > which is understandable, but if something could be added to the API > to allow this functionality to be 'legal', it would prolly make all > parties involved happy. Then they wouldnt' be 'hackin' the server > code, and everyone would still have the menu's they like. Just a > thought. > > - Artie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:15 AM > Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update > > > They were warned multiple times to not use the hacks they were, so it > is upon their own heads. > > - Alfred > > ----Original Message---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of PiTaGoRaS > Sent: > Friday, May 20, 2005 1:10 AM To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update > > > I will never understand why Valve make this this kind of "fixes" > > that broke something else without any warning. Is it so dificult to > > contact with the Mani/AMX plugin devs, for example, some days > > before relase so they are able to update their code and everybody > > is happy? > > > > ... really tired of this. > > > > Alfred Reynolds escribi� (Fri, 20 May 2005 00:49:04 -0700): > > > They are using an undocumented hack to display those menus, this > > > update removes the hack and so they can no longer use it (because > > > the last subsystem that was using it, radio menus, has finally > > > been fixed to be client side). They have a plugin API to display > > > messages to users and get feedback, they should use that. > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > ----Original Message---- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 Sent: > > > Friday, May 20, 2005 12:43 AM To: [email protected] > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update > > > > > > > Thx Alfred for staying on top of this and offering a roll-back. > > > > Looking forward to the fix. > > > > > > > > Something else tho that I believe needs to be addressed. The > > > > Mani plugin as well as Beetles plugin no longer work as > > > > intended - the AMX-style menus no longer function. A quote from > > > > Beetle: 'valve stopped any commands from the menus being sent > > > > to the server... I have no idea of any way to do it now..' > > > > > > > > Was this intentional or part of the problem with the new binary? > > > > > > > > - K2 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred > > > > Reynolds Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:35 PM To: > > > > [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes > > > > w/ new update > > > > > > > > I am going to do an update soon that will roll the binary back > > > > (but keep the new de_inferno, it had a couple valuable fixes > > > > perf wise). The de_inferno update made the whole update > > > > mandatory. > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > ----Original Message---- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon > > > > Garner Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:26 PM To: > > > > [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] server crashes > > > > w/ new update > > > > > > > > > On 20/05/2005 3:47 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > > > I have had a couple reports of this happening on de_port. > > > > > > Does anyone get it on any other Valve maps? (not third > > > > > > party ones). > > > > > > > > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seems to be happening on all maps. > > > > > > > > > > Save us Alfred, teh servers are dyiinng! > > > > > > > > > > On a related note, why was this a required update anyway? I > > > > > wasn't even going to bother updating as I hadn't had any > > > > > trouble with the two issues it was fixing, but unfortunately > > > > > I was forced to. :( > > > > > > > > > > -Simon > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
