[quote] <rant> There is no need for a pissing contest, this is a general plea for turning this list back into the resource it should be. </rant> [/quote]
Then why start the contest? This list is for game server admins, not for intellectuals, not for people that work with O/S or for scientists, or am I missing something here? Please tell me. I'm sure most people here, just want go give advice that explain how something works, not persé in the right terminology etc etc that really explains the same thing, only takes twice as long to read. If people want more indebt information on how it really works. I'm sure they are intelligent to find it using terms in explanation used here, or they can just drop another line. If u think people really need to know the "real information" then go ahead and post it, but keep your arrogant attitude and remarks to your self please. For instance I wrote this in another post: A multi-media timer or mm-timer in short (do a google search on the abbreviation) handles rate and precision at which data gets processed. The normal timer isn't that precise because most programs don't need high precision, programs that do need it such as voIP and streaming media change this mm-timer. The site from your first link starts by saying this: High resolution timers are desirable in a wide variety of different applications. For example, the most common use of such timers in Windows is by multimedia applications that are producing sound or audio that require precise control. MIDI is a perfect example because MIDI sequencers must maintain the pace of MIDI events with 1 millisecond accuracy. I don't see much difference tbh, sure the second gives more precise info, but I tried explaining in short what mmtimer is, and tbh I don't think I did it that badly. Now kindly take your pissing contest, and your arrogant attitude elsewhere. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tucker Sent: donderdag 8 september 2005 14:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Tick Rate Guide Updated If anyone wants real information on this topic there is more detail here (with source code): http://www.sysinternals.com/Information/HighResolutionTimers.html Who ever that dude was with the box that supposedly wasn't running a high res timer, load this for proof: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ClockRes.html Now, when you have finished contradicting yourself "there's nothing extra apart from some monitoring scripts.... server is just running some game server, no scripts...". You might want to check this out: http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.html So that you can find out what's really running on your server. <rant> Why does everyone just speak so damn fast? Anyone tried google? oh yeah, that fails because so many morons already spoke too soon and the forums are filled with crap information. Please don't replicate that here - no one here has a need for forum level crap. I came here with the hope of finding high level technologists. A few of you have made this close to true, but please guys, try and get your terminology facts and questions stated professionally. And FYI, one such example, the person who wanted the nav scripts - the batch I gave him took less time to write than most of your mails did, and which attempted to actually solve the problem? Get it? good. There is no need for a pissing contest, this is a general plea for turning this list back into the resource it should be. </rant> Thanks. Ian mu wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Sounds like I must have, but I've checked server and there's nothing extra > running apart from some scripts monitoring servers (virus checker etc in > background monitoring but thats about it). Server is just running some game > servers, no scripts, no webpages, nothing. Must be something doing it though > if thats the case. > Out of interest if a simple program can enable it, why doesn't valve just > add a bit of code to enable it anyway, or am I missing something? > > On 9/8/05, blkraven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Idd >>Running a flash app, eggdrop, streaming media, or such will do the trick. >>U have something like that running I'm sure, clean windows install won't >>get >>u high fps. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tucker >>Sent: woensdag 7 september 2005 13:52 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [hlds] Tick Rate Guide Updated >> >>Provided you are reading the right data, which I assume you are, then >>I'm afraid there are no two ways about it, you have a high resolution >>timer running. >> >>The cause of this could be any other piece of software on the system, >>starting a flash file would do it for example. There are many ways to >>get a high res timer, the amusement of the CS community using media >>player or flash files is merely an oddity of the community at large. >>(damn forums). >> >>Let me just assure you once again however, this isn't a mistake, your >>system IS running a high res timer, and this IS created by a third party >>app being introduced. If you still don't believe it, do a fresh install >>with quite literally nothing but the OS and source. Don't load a web >>browser (no flash allowed) just load srcds. You will then get different >>results. >> >>Ian mu wrote: >> >>>-- >>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>Hiya, what I'm saying is I get 500 fps with no need for any timer and no >>>enhancements to the o.s (and fwiw the media player or boost fix doesn't >>>raise it above that if fps_max is set way higher, but it obviously does >> >>for >> >>>some other people). I'm not complaining, or looking for a fix! I'm just >>>pointing out according to the thread I should only get 64 or 1000 (I get >> >>64 >> >>>unless I set fps_max 600, then its a constant 500), so it may be worth >>>quantifying that its not always the case in the thread and some people >> >>may >> >>>be able to get 500. Why it is for some I have no idea, guessing its >>>different o.s flavours. >>>I do appreciate people trying to help me though, but its not required, >> >>just >> >>>pointing out a possible mistake :). I'm totally fine with 500fps. >>> >>>On 9/7/05, James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>No problem, there are some things my uni 'CS' education may have been >>>>good for :-s but i don't like to admit it. >>>> >>>>m1kest4r wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>>>>Thanks James, im sure you could tell what i know what i mean - im just >>>> >>>>not >>>> >>>> >>>>>100% of the correct terminology :P >>>>> >>>>>On 9/7/05, James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>What you require is actually called a "high resolution timer" >> >>typically >> >>>>>>many operating systems have no need to time interrupts on such a >>>>>>frequent basis, however srcds needs around a 1000Hz timer to achieve >>>>>>this fps. >>>>>> >>>>>>The reason for the srcdsfpsboost/media player references is that one >> >>of >> >>>>>>the programatically easiest ways to get a high res timer from the NT >>>>>>kernel is to load certain media libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ian mu wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >>>-- >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> >>please visit: >> >>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>please visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>please visit: >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
