From what I've heard from others, it seems to be directly related to the AMD
processors themselves (although the linux srcds surely isn't helping either). I can't give a direct performance related comparison, but I know of many people that have done so; the intel based systems showed more stability when it came to source (remember, we're talking source here, I'm not bashing opterons for other uses), and, in addition, windows 2k3 does seem to prove a more stable environment (however, to my knowledge, the benchmarks were conducted seperately, so I can't say the intel+linux is better than the amd+win2k3 or whatnot), minus the occaisional memory referencing error that we have on some of our dedicated boxes (bump: if anyone knows a fix for [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Phil
From: "blkraven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [hlds] 100 player slot server spec? Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:28:32 +0200 In reply to Tef: Yes I was referring to tic rate, high tic rate servers use much more cpu resources. I can only correlate to what we use; we run Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon 64bit machines with windows 2003 server as an OS. We use an irc eggdrop to be able to get more server fps out of the HL engine, we tried flash apps and hlbooster in the past but up to this date I prefer eggdrop as it gives the most stable fps. HL servers above ~16slots that use high tic rates and server fps; use between 16 and 24% cpu on our servers. U say u wants to run 4 24 player servers on high tic rates. So then u would need a system that's a bit more powerful, then a dual xeon 2.8 GHz. I would go with AMD Opteron, they can handle more load continuasly before performance drops and they have a lower internal latency, also u can put dual core opteron cpu's (these are really 2 cpu's in one cpu package) in the same motherboard as single core opterons. If u were to go with Xeons, and u would like to upgrade your system to the upcoming dual core xeon's, u would also need to buy another motherboard. So besides more performance and lower latency, u also get a more scalable system if u are going to use AMD. We bought our Xeon machines last year, in the assumption we could stick dual core xeon's in them once they were available, unfortunately intel is going to use a different chipset to support their dual core cpu's (so much for scalability). If I were u I would be looking for a server with one dual core Opteron 265 or 270 in it. It would be enough to run your 4 servers, and u could later put another dual core Opteron cpu in it, so u can run even more servers on the system. Supermicro sells pre-build Intel and Amd systems, aswell as barebone systems (barebone: server case with installed motherboard and accessories, so u only need to drop in the cpu's, ram and harddrive/s). U could contact Supermicro www.supermicro.com and ask them if they know about any supermicro authorized system integrator in the UK. In reply to Phil: Is this memory leak only in combination Linux Opteron, or also with Windows Opteron? And how fast does it leak, Could it be prevented by resetting the servers every night? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philipp G. Sent: vrijdag 9 september 2005 1:02 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds] 100 player slot server spec? I don't have anything written on hand per se, but I can point out that several GSP's (most notably probably hd-gaming.com) have given up hosting source due it's insane environment (quite coincidentally, companies that use the linux version on opteron processors ;) ). I'm sure that more to support this argument could be found by browsing the steam forums. Phil >From: "dexion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [hlds] 100 player slot server spec? >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:31:04 -0400 > >I was toying with building an opteron dc system up until now ive been using >dual xeons but with dell's stupid 50% price increase I was thinking of >trying an opt. Do you have any data or info about amd's problems with >source? >dex > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philipp G. >Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 6:21 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [hlds] 100 player slot server spec? > > >Remember that the OS you're running will have a significant impact on >performance, considering you plan to run srcds (linux seems to have a CPU >load issue with the current srcds, while windows does not). In addition, >remember not to jump on the AMD bandwagon; right now AMD based processors >(athlon and opteron) are showing significant memory leaks when it comes to >source. >Begin the flames. > > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [hlds] 100 player slot server spec? > >Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:29:12 +0100 > > > >Hi, thanks for your replies guys, most enlightening.... > > > > > Obviously if someone asks about running servers on a given > > > server specification and he don't state he wants to run his > > > game servers boosted, then I will reply assuming default > > > values will be used. > > > > > > In the case that the person starting this thread wants to use > > > boosted servers, even 100 player slots would be asking too > > > much from any Xeon machine. > > > >I'm not sure what you mean by "boosted". I would like high performance, > >yes. > >I am thinking of 66 tick rate servers if that what you mean? > >The aim is to run 4 x 24 man cs:S servers on there. > > > >Would a single cpu, dual core opteron (and what speed?) be better than >dual > >xeon processors (not 1 dual core)? > > > >Also, here's a potential problem. I would want pre built and with the >same > >sort of support you get from Dell - 3 yr next day as a minimum - within >the > >UK. > > > >Many thanks, > > > >Tef. > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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