James,

I still disagree. Do they owe me something? Well I paid for the game and mods 
(DOD:S included), so yeah, they do. I didn't think that was something in 
dispute. Furthermore, valve knows full well if they didn't provide these 
updates, they wouldn't have near the following they do. This update was in 
preparation for DOD:S, which I did pay for. So yep, it's something they owe me. 
Think what you wish, but either way, they don't do this just out of the 
kindness of their hearts, there is an economic reason too.

It's like saying friendly service isn't part of the meal when you go out to 
eat. Sure, that may technically be true, but it'll also get your place closed 
down due to lack of business if you try it. So while they don't directly owe me 
anything beyond DOD:S, they would be fools to go that direction.

With that said, yes, Valve does go far above and beyond most game companies. 
For that I commend them and thank them, but that really isn't the point I'm 
trying to make here. I only posted that, in defense of those that did have a 
problem with the announcements, that they were somewhat justified. One hour 
before release is not the time to find bugs, nor correct your school papers. In 
addition, if the delay was to test this release for bugs, they did a piss-poor 
job in my opinion.

Anyhow, if you want to continue this banter off list, email me. Otherwise, we 
can just agree to have our own opinions.

Have a great day,

-Stoned Smurf
AKA The Joint Chief

From: "James McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: Mandatory Source engine update later today...
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:16:24 -0700
Reply-To: [email protected]

That's nice, however, of all the "professional game developers," Valve is
the only one constantly updating it's games. Shit happens, get over it. They
don't owe you anything, though I know you think they do. See, when they
announce an update coming soon, it's a curtesy. They could simply release it
and leave you with your pants aroud your ankles, but they don't... they
alert us all with these messages. Then, they alert us that they won't be
able to release it because there's a last minute problem. Sounds
professional to me. Taking the time to make sure the fans are in the know.
Wow. More than can be said for just about every game company out there.

In any event, is there a way I can get the command parameter for dod:s? I
just want to set the .bat file that runs daily to include that so when it's
released, I can get it automatically. Thannks!
--
Sincerely,

James McKenna


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