-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Obviously, somebody does not understand the concept of a mailing list. I do not know how you managed to get 300 e-mails if you are using g-mail, since it manages this e-mail lists emails, quite well. On 10/3/05, Daniel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING > ME!!! > IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 > MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS > STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP > SPAMMING > ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT > LIKE > 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS > STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP > SPAMMING > ME!!! IVE GOT LIKE 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!!STOP SPAMMING ME!!! IVE GOT > LIKE > 300 MAILS OF THIS STOP!! > > On 10/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Send hlds mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: CS:S Admins, a call to arms! (sprout) > > 2. RE: CS:S Admins, a call to arms! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > 3. Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) > > 4. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Tyler Cook) > > 5. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) > > 6. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Tyler Cook) > > 7. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED] > ) > > 8. Re: Any news when -steamport will be fixed? (Ian mu) > > 9. Bots causing memory read errors (Shane Robinett) > > 10. Re: Bots causing memory read errors (David Harrison) > > 11. Re: Bots causing memory read errors (Hackmett) > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 1 > > From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 12:35:43 -0500 > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > to all who insult this. > > > > I personally wouldn't let them be admin on my servers I emailed zach and > > let > > him know that but I figured it would be a good idea to setup a global > ban > > list by this for hackers. And emailed him that. He agreed and we are now > > going to be doing that. I run 3 servers with a co owners running 2 more. > I > > dare not allow people that much power on them without me knowing. But at > > the same time I would like to setup a global ban system so that there is > > less need for admins 24/7 and more communication between the hosting > > groups. > > I have setup a ftp site where people can upload their banlists I am > > willing > > to help cordinate this. If interested xfire or aim me at sprout1 for > xfire > > sprout1142 for aim. or email me back at my own email address not here > and > > if you have to flame me go for it feel free but do it to my personal > > address > > not this cause this its just gay to flame people [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks > > for > > reading this if you are this far > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "[GS]BeNt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 1:34 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! > > > > > > > Well nothing wrong with it I guess if you have a good way to moderate > > the > > > way its working.And a good close monitor on admin abuse/complaints. > > > > > > BUT...... > > > > > > "you can apply to have your server host us, or apply to become a > league > > > admin." > > > > > > So you mean to tell me if you supply a server you are not > automatically > > an > > > admin in every server in the community?Hummm.Kinda defeats the > > > purpose.Even > > > though I wouldn't let anyone I don't know run my servers for me I do > > think > > > with proper planning ect,this idea has merit.The only downside I see > is > > > when > > > alot of people start abusing,following people from server to server > > simply > > > because they do not like them or dumb admins.With 10-20 servers I see > it > > > working.But from 50-100 I think it would fall apart.But time will tell > > and > > > once it gets up and rolling an has been up for a year or so I'll make > a > > > decision then. > > > > > > BeNt > > > http://www.gorillazsouth.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Zachary Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >> The LoA has a forum. > > >> > > >> http://cssadmins.jsyte.com > > >> > > >> even if you do not support this movement, I don't believe that the > HLDS > > >> mailing board is the proper place to argue, take up any issues with > our > > >> staff there. If you do support the movement, you can apply to have > your > > >> server host us, or apply to become a league admin. > > >> > > >> Thanks to all who helped, > > >> Zack Doherty > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:05:49 -0700 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! > > To: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > we tried a global ban list before. > > > > the resulting mess was immediate. > > > > every ass bite clan with a grudge against some other ass bite clan > > entered the "enemy" steam id's in the "global ban list". > > > > It will not work. ever. > > > > the cheat authors get some sort of perverted sexual satisfaction out of > > pissing off thousands of people. > > > > they will never stop until they are dead or freaking finally grow up. > > > > (please do kill cheat authors if you find them! better you get the chair > > than me...) > > > > If you can not handle the cheat users then make your servers private. > > Possibly subscription based. > > > > otherwise just get out of the business and do something else. > > > > take for instance "even balance" (punkbuster). > > > > They convinced the stupid suits at the major commercial game companies > > they had the solution to cheats. > > > > they prepare a release of pb for when the game is released. > > > > then they move to the next project and forget the last one. > > > > It takes the cheat authors about 10 minutes to have a new version out > > undetectable by pb. > > > > since pb is never, ever, updated after the first release with a new game > > the new cheats are never detected. > > > > sort of like how as long as there are people who buy virus prevention > > software then the virus software companies will keep creating new > > viruses. virus companies like norton/symantic, etc. > > > > BIG MONEY > > > > it is just as crappy and dishonest as politics. > > > > It is not worth your stress and frustration. > > > > better to grow up and walk away. > > > > you want the rush from combat? get into scenario paintball. > > > > check this vid: > > http://www.specialopspaintball.com/movies/battleofbower2.mov > > > > i love my new Mark 30 landmine: > > http://www.specialopspaintball.com/shop/prodimages/6110002a.jpg > > > > and i love my BT16 Tactical Marker: > > > http://imagescommerce.bcentral.com/merchantfiles/5023680/BT16-Tactical.jpg > > > > It's a real rush folks. The D-Day event next year should draw over 4,000 > > players. > > > > Check waynes-world.com <http://waynes-world.com> < > http://waynes-world.com> for some upcoming events. > > > > Check http://www.ragtopvideo.com/wwvideos/wwvideos.html for vids and > > pics of past events. > > > > puts video games to shame. > > > > Hopefully this useless and hopeless thread will finally be put to sleep > > as well. > > > > L8R heroes! > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S Admins, a call to arms! > > > From: "sprout" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Sun, October 02, 2005 10:35 am > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > to all who insult this. > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 22:20:14 +0100 > > From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying > the > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't > > enable > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > Thanks, Ian > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:12:37 -0400 > > From: Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > nevar!!! muahahaha! > > > > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying > > the > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't > > > enable > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > > Thanks, Ian > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 23:52:30 +0100 > > From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Lol, wouldn't surprise me. Anyone know any workarounds? Even seems to > take > > the default IP for steam not the gameserver IP, so at the moment trying > to > > think of coding a wrapper to force it onto a different IP, but thats > just > > plain messy and don't really have the time. > > Anyone hit this issue and found a workaround since the last update? > > > > On 10/2/05, Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > nevar!!! muahahaha! > > > > > > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with > specifying > > > the > > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't > > > > enable > > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want > to > > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > > > Thanks, Ian > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 6 > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 19:40:13 -0400 > > From: Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > isnt there a commap like.. > > +ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:yyyy > > > > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Lol, wouldn't surprise me. Anyone know any workarounds? Even seems to > > take > > > the default IP for steam not the gameserver IP, so at the moment > trying > > to > > > think of coding a wrapper to force it onto a different IP, but thats > > just > > > plain messy and don't really have the time. > > > Anyone hit this issue and found a workaround since the last update? > > > > > > On 10/2/05, Tyler Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > nevar!!! muahahaha! > > > > > > > > On 10/2/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with > > specifying > > > > the > > > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac > won't > > > > > enable > > > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just > want > > to > > > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > > > > Thanks, Ian > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 7 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:45:01 +0000 > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Use -port instead. The old sport or steamport thing isnt working > according > > to others in this list last week. > > > > -Ozz > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with specifying > > the > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't > > enable > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want to > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > > Thanks, Ian > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please > > > visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 01:14:33 +0100 > > From: Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Any news when -steamport will be fixed? > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > -port & -ip sets the gameserver port/ip, there's no issue with that, > they > > work fine. We already use -port & -ip. > > This is different though, and its the steamport and is effectively > > separate > > which prevents steam relating access working like vac (maybe master > > servers > > lists? Haven't tested that yet). Hence why the -steamport was originally > > added, otherwise you get the error it can't contact the steam servers if > > the > > ports are already used by other steam games (and no way to change them). > > It > > also looks like there's port range limit where you can only have a > certain > > amount of servers contacting steam unless you are able to specify > > -steamport > > xxxxx. > > The steam ports it uses aren't offset to the gameserver port or anything > > like that, so can't figure any way around it. > > Thanks for the replies though. > > > > > > On 10/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Use -port instead. The old sport or steamport thing isnt working > > according > > > to others in this list last week. > > > > > > -Ozz > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Kind of annoying at the moment, have a lot of problems with > specifying > > > the > > > > steam ports, servers crash on startup if specified, if not vac won't > > > enable > > > > since the update. Haven't heard any update from Valve, so just want > to > > > > confirm they are aware its broken and are looking into it? > > > > Thanks, Ian > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please > > > > visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -- > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 9 > > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:21:19 -0400 > > From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to > > SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' errors > > that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to be > > associated with BEETLE and MANI. > > > > We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the > > problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. > > > > - > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 crashes > > reported in 48 hours (normal). > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes > > reported in 48 hours. - (bad) > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 > > crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. > > > > System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running > > Windows2003. > > > > Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? > > > > - > > Shane > > PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> <http://PHXX.NET> > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 10 > > From: "David Harrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors > > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:36:47 +1000 > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > We have been getting these crashes for ages. We get them in vanilla > > SRCDS and with Mani - we don't run bots. We get probably between 4 and > > 10 crashes a day. > > > > I believe one of our guys has forwarded some of the crash dumps to > > Alfred. > > > > -- david > > > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:21 AM > > Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors > > > > > We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to > > > SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' > > > errors > > > that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to > > > be > > > associated with BEETLE and MANI. > > > > > > We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the > > > problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. > > > > > > - > > > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 crashes > > > reported in 48 hours (normal). > > > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes > > > reported in 48 hours. - (bad) > > > > > > Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 > > > crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. > > > > > > System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running > > > Windows2003. > > > > > > Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? > > > > > > - > > > Shane > > > PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> <http://PHXX.NET> > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 11 > > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 02:47:41 +0200 (CEST) > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors > > From: "Hackmett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [email protected] > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > Hi, > > > > same problem here, at least with Win 2003 it crashes sometimes when a > bot > > is leaving the game. Turning Beetle off has no effect on that. Last log > > entries were always the weapon-stats of a bot. > > The Linux editions seams to run without crashing. > > I thought this is a known bug, in Beetle's forum I read that others have > > the same problem. > > > > > We have been getting these crashes for ages. We get them in vanilla > > > SRCDS and with Mani - we don't run bots. We get probably between 4 and > > > 10 crashes a day. > > > > > > I believe one of our guys has forwarded some of the crash dumps to > > > Alfred. > > > > > > -- david > > > > > > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > > From: "Shane Robinett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 10:21 AM > > > Subject: [hlds] Bots causing memory read errors > > > > > >> We've been chasing down a crash problem since the last upgrades to > > >> SRCDS.exe. We are experiencing the same 'could not read memory' > > >> errors > > >> that many others have reported. Usually these errors were reported to > > >> be > > >> associated with BEETLE and MANI. > > >> > > >> We upgraded MANI (we don't use BEETLE) and continued to have the > > >> problem. It appeared to be related to bots on the system. > > >> > > >> - > > >> > > >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with no bots. --- 4 > crashes > > >> reported in 48 hours (normal). > > >> > > >> Reinstalled from scratch 30 SOURCE servers with bots. --- 74 crashes > > >> reported in 48 hours. - (bad) > > >> > > >> Reinstalled from scratch 10 SOURCE servers with bots and MANI. -- 24 > > >> crashes reported in 48 hours. On par with just BOTS only. > > >> > > >> System operating on dual XEON 2.6/2.8/3.0 GHZ machines all running > > >> Windows2003. > > >> > > >> Anyone else experiencing this problem to this degree? > > >> > > >> - > > >> Shane > > >> PHXX.NET <http://PHXX.NET> <http://PHXX.NET> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > >> archives, please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > greetz > > > > [Team America] Hackmett > > > > Freedom is not free > > > > www.tawp.de <http://www.tawp.de> <http://www.tawp.de> > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > End of hlds Digest > > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > --
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