Generally the server companies either buy software, write the software, or
pay someone else to write software to do all sorta fun things like
gracefully shutdown servers.  Now this is part of what they feel makes them
a "business" so they are less than apt to say.  Oh here download my perl
scripts that restart my servers.  All you have to do is learn how rcon works
(actually rcon not the things you use thru the client) and the you just
program a safe shutdown.




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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Sando
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Accessing srcds console remotely (for admin)

Yeah, good point. Now the only problem is how to do this automated...
And if you can automate RCON commands, then you could just automate a quit
;)

ServerDOC is mentioned here a fair bit however I haven't had any time to
myself to try this app out. Can this issue RCON commands to a machine at
all?

I have also seen people mention using PHP or java classes to do this sort of
thing. Is anyone able to help me such that I could have a scheduled task to
kick off something like this?

(btw - my SRCDS server runs Windows XP WOOT!)

Regards,
Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 10:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Accessing srcds console remotely (for admin)

Your concern is valid; the shut down is not at all graceful and the
uncommitted log buffer is not written.  Log records are, therefore, lost.
One way to avoid this is to do a changelevel, just before you stop the
service (assuming you are not logging to a single file), to force a commit
on the log.  I have not been fussed by this, since I am capturing a udp
feed.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Sando
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Accessing srcds console remotely (for admin)

I have a question regarding the service based SRCDS setup:

When you do a NET STOP or stop the services thru the MMC snap-in, does it
perform a graceful shutdown of your SRCDS instance, or does it just
terminate the executable.

I have found that with using service based start-up, and even using
ServerChecker, it does not perform a graceful shutdown which causes the log
file for that active map to be deleted (never created even).

I am guessing this is by design, as a terminated process doesn't know that
it needs to quickly shutdown the logging...

Any thoughts on this guys?

Cheers,
Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Just Me
Sent: Thursday, 9 February 2006 07:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] Accessing srcds console remotely (for admin)

So - not sure you are in a windows server environment or not - but if so...

I have spent a fair amount of time working this stuff out.  I have arrived
at a solution that uses mostly "out of the box" Microsoft tools.
I have wrapped my srcds game instances as windows services, using
srvany.exe.  Many folks swear by FireDaemon - but srvany is completely free,
works just fine and has no restrictions in terms of the number of wrapped
services.  This free tool is part of the windows server toolkit and is
freely downloadable from Microsoft.

I have 3 games running as services (HL2DM, CSS and DOD:S).  As well, I run
fpspingbooster.exe and hlstatx.pl as windows services, also wrapped with
srvany.  I created a set of .reg registry files and .bat files that automate
the whole thing.

For scheduled tasks, e.g. nightly hldsupdate, hlstatx awards and just
restarting the services because I am paranoid about memory leaks, I use
Windows Scheduler and bat files.  Works like a charm.

To give you an idea of what i mean, here is my InstallAll.bat file - that
creates and starts the services:

------------
d:
cd "d:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer"
net stop srcds_cstrike
net stop srcds_hl2mp
net stop srcds_dod
net stop srcds_pingbooster
net stop srcds_hlstatsx
instsrv "srcds_cstrike" remove
instsrv "srcds_hl2mp" remove
instsrv "srcds_dod" remove
instsrv "srcds_pingbooster" remove
instsrv "srcds_hlstatsx" remove
instsrv "srcds_cstrike" "D:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer\srvany.exe"
instsrv "srcds_hl2mp" "D:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer\srvany.exe"
instsrv "srcds_dod" "D:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer\srvany.exe"
instsrv "srcds_pingbooster" "D:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer\srvany.exe"
instsrv "srcds_hlstatsx" "D:\Program Files\Valve\HLServer\srvany.exe"
regedit /S srcds_cstrike.reg
regedit /S srcds_hl2mp.reg
regedit /S srcds_dod.reg
regedit /S srcds_pingbooster.reg
regedit /S srcds_hlstatsx.reg
net start srcds_pingbooster
net start srcds_cstrike
net start srcds_hl2mp
net start srcds_dod
net start srcds_hlstatsx
pause
---------

Note the use of the silent regedit to set the srvany parameters for the
services.  Here is an example of a .reg file:

--------
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\srcds_dod]
"Type"=dword:00000110
"Start"=dword:00000003
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):43,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00
,6d,00,\

20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,
77,\

00,73,00,20,00,52,00,65,00,73,00,6f,00,75,00,72,00,63,00,65,00,20,00,4b,
00,\

69,00,74,00,73,00,5c,00,54,00,6f,00,6f,00,6c,00,73,00,5c,00,73,00,72,00,
76,\
  00,61,00,6e,00,79,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00
"DisplayName"="srcds_dod"
"ObjectName"="LocalSystem"
"FailureActions"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,03,00,00,00,53,
00,65,\

00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,00,01,00,00,00,60,ea,00,
00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\srcds_dod\Paramete
rs]
"AppDirectory"="D:\\Program Files\\Valve\\HLServer"
"Application"="D:\\Program Files\\Valve\\HLServer\\srcds.exe"
"AppParameters"=" -console  -game \"dod\" -tickrate 66 +fps_max 600
+maxplayers 32 -port 27025 +map dod_kalt +rcon_password
\"somesecretcrap\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\srcds_dod\Security
]
"Security"=hex:01...
...
several lines omitted for security reasons they wouldn't work on your
machine anyway ...


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\srcds_dod\Enum]
"0"="Root\\LEGACY_SRCDS_dod\\0000"
"Count"=dword:00000001
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001
---------------------

You can create these files by manually using Regedit, then exporting the
registry key and saving the file.

As for robustness - in Windows server, you can specify what actions you want
to take if the service fails.  I find that this works only to a limited
extent.

I am using HLSW.  My opinion about that tool is mixed - but it mostly does
the job.

Any questions, feel free to contact me directly at gr1955 at hotmail dot com

Best of luck.

Frazer


>From: "Adam Sando" Reply-To: [email protected] To: Subject:
>[hlds] Accessing srcds console remotely (for admin) Date: Mon, 9 Jan
>2006
>11:05:11 +1030
>
>Hi guys,
>
>I have setup a Source dedicated server and am trying to automate it and

>any associated processing so that I never have to logon to the host and

>perform work manually.
>
>At present I am using Server Checker to detect when the srcds.exe
>process crashes so that it is automatically restarted, however I have
>found a few problems that I would like to try find a way to get around.
>
>I want to take down the server at ad-hoc times and run the hlds update
>tool to update any game files when an update is released. At present I
>have to do this manually. I have written a vbscript that terminates the

>serverchecker.exe and srcds.exe processes so that I can then run the
>update, however if srcds.exe is terminated without typing 'quit' in the

>console, the log files are not updated!
>
>Does anyone know how you would pass a 'quit' command to a remote srcds
>console so that you could perform regular updates like this??
>
>Any help would be appreciated :)
>
>p.s.- I also noticed that Server Checker simply terminates the process
>too when you hit 'stop' on an active server. Makes stats processing a
>pain :(
>
>Regards, Adam.
>
>
>
>
>
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