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1. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (Ook)
2. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so (David Williams)
3. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (kyle)
4. Re: Seere Choke/Lag issues (Whisper)
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Message: 1
From: "Ook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:32:07 -0800
Reply-To: [email protected]
Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so
that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
Ook wrote:
He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC enabled
servers?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so
ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away for
me.
and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
Ook wrote:
If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so
i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the ban
was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of times
vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent
Ook wrote:
hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by VAC,
he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.
Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.
http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to
do so
on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.
I think this could be one for alfred
Ook wrote:
This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered in
the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?
Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error
E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.
we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.
2006-03-19 17:50:12: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.
the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm not
a
very
patient person.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:38:35 +0000
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so
Reply-To: [email protected]
k will do as soon as i can. Also i've just noticed that hlstats is
reporting a database error:
*Database Error*
/Server Address:/ localhost
/Server Username:/ client_site
/Error Diagnostic:/
Bad query.
/Server Error:/ (1044) Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
database 'client_site'
/Last SQL Query:/
CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE hlstats_Frags_Kills
(
playerId INT(10),
kills INT(10),
deaths INT(10),
headshot INT(10),
country varchar(128),
flag char(2)
)
that is from the user info page i think it's for the hitbox info supplied
by small statsme. am i right???
Ook wrote:
Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so
that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join for
a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
Ook wrote:
He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so
ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again valve
has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.
and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban was
deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
Ook wrote:
If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so
i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent
Ook wrote:
hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has falsely
banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to go
and buy
another key.
Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.
http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to
do so
on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.
I think this could be one for alfred
Ook wrote:
This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered
in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into
admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?
Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with my
admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems
and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error
E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER: RL 0.
we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that
match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.
2006-03-19 17:50:12: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14: 87.
the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm
not a
very
patient person.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:50:11 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "kyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
Reply-To: [email protected]
--
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Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just assumed he
was talking about running an HL1 mod of some sort. im not even sure if
that works for srcds or not. But if it does then running media player
would
take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.
-------Original Message-------
From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
kyle wrote:
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
That's for srcds not regular HLDS. :)
-------Original Message-------
From: Whisper
Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
--
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sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and would
nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange issues
for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--
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It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
on.
Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods. one 32
slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
Sv_maxrate 12000
Sv_minupdaterate 20
Sv_maxupdaterate 40 I swear by these rate settings. i have
tested
many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
And ill never run any other settings.
i do however run fedora core 4. which i cannot recommend highly enough.
-------Original Message-------
From: Graham M.
Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
Daniel Morris wrote:
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
connection
1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it, nor
does restarting the whole box
its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
ServerDoc
to catch crashes and restarts
HELP !!
none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
more,
like 3x servers :@
i dont get it
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What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100 Tick
Rate could be something to do with it.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:56:38 +1100
From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
Reply-To: [email protected]
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
It works for both HLDS & SRCDS as its ia and OS level effect not
application
level.
On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Well since the poster wrote he was using media player, I just assumed he
was talking about running an HL1 mod of some sort. im not even sure
if
that works for srcds or not. But if it does then running media player
would
take up more CPU then just running a SWF file minimized.
when i use it, it boost's my FPS on my win2k server to 500.
-------Original Message-------
From: David Williams
Date: 03/19/06 18:28:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
i'm interested in how the hell running a swf file in IE can boost the
fps of a srcds server. Surely running a flash anim would slow it down.
Or is there a special trick this ageing noob dosn't know about.
kyle wrote:
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>That's for srcds not regular HLDS. :)
>
>-------Original Message-------
>
>From: Whisper
>Date: 03/19/06 18:04:12
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>
>--
>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>sv_maxrate is not enough for a 100 tickrate server
>sv_maxupdaterate of 40 is lower than the CS:SRCDS default of 60 and
>would
>nullify the benefit of running at 100 tickrate
>Setting the sv_minupdaterate to anything atm seems to cause strange
issues
>for lots of people if the fps drops even for a millisecond
>
>
>On 3/20/06, kyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>--
>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>It's been my experience that win2k is the better win OS to run a server
>>on.
>>
>>Im running almost the exact server setup except there HL1 mods. one
>>32
>>slot dod1.3 one 13 slot match and one 20 slot HLTV.
>>
>>Sv_maxrate 12000
>>Sv_minupdaterate 20
>>Sv_maxupdaterate 40 I swear by these rate settings. i have
>>tested
>>many settings over the last 3 years that i have run server HL1 servers.
>>And ill never run any other settings.
>>i do however run fedora core 4. which i cannot recommend highly
enough.
>>
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: Graham M.
>>Date: 03/19/06 11:51:58
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] Seere Choke/Lag issues
>>
>>Daniel Morris wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--
>>>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>>>One of my dedicated servers is suffering terribly to lag and choke
>>>
>>>P4 3.0 Ghz 630 ( so 64 bit and HT technologys ) CPU, 1GB ram, 100mbit
>>>connection
>>>
>>> 1x 24 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Public)
>>> 1x 13 Slot 100 Tick Rate server ( Match with 1x 128 slot SRCTV )
>>>
>>>choke is terrbile, restarts doesnt fix it, re-install doesnt fix it,
nor
>>>does restarting the whole box
>>>
>>>its Win Xp Pro, SP2 latest updates, latest install of SCRDS, and
>>>
>>>
>>ServerDoc
>>
>>
>>>to catch crashes and restarts
>>>
>>>HELP !!
>>>
>>>none of my servers suffer as badley, if not, not at all, and they run
>>>
>>>
>>more,
>>
>>
>>>like 3x servers :@
>>>
>>>i dont get it
>>>--
>>>
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>>>
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>>please visit:
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>>>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>What is the CPU Usage like when these are running full? And the 100
>>Tick
>>Rate could be something to do with it.
>>
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