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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do so (logs
contained) (Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn))
  2. Server Choke - Resolving problem / Improving performace (Daniel
Morris)
  3. Re: can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
      so (logs contained) (David Williams)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:52:49 +1100
From: "Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: [email protected]

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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

<http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log>here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54><STEAM_0:0:2237506><CT>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><STEAM_0:0:10570579><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20
minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0><Console><Console>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><Unassigned>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38><STEAM_0:0:2411455><TERRORIST>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:

> Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
> them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on
> this
> mystery.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
> to do
> so
>
>
>> that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join
for
>> a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
>> away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
>> there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
>> aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
>> vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times
>>
>> Ook wrote:
>>
>>> He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
>>> enabled
>>> servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
>>> to do
>>> so
>>>
>>>
>>>> ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again
valve
>>>> has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
>>>> someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the
>>>> hlstats
>>>> website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed
>>>> in
>>>> the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
>>>> only
>>>> vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue
>>>> a
>>>> vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
>>>> for
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban
was
>>>> deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
>>>> swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)
>>>>
>>>> Ook wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
>>>>> don't
>>>>> hold
>>>>> your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
>>>>> reason,
>>>>> your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
>>>>> However,
>>>>> this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told
>>>>> vac
>>>>> to do
>>>>> so
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
>>>>>> ban was
>>>>>> only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
>>>>>> times vac
>>>>>> was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> they are worse than scum so he is innocent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ook wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
>>>>>>> VAC, he
>>>>>>> probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has
falsely
>>>>>>> banned
>>>>>>> yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to
go
>>>>>>> and buy
>>>>>>> another key.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
>>>>>>> Hlstatsx
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
>>>>>>> that can
>>>>>>> control this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to
>>>>>>> do so
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
>>>>>>>> it. but
>>>>>>>> now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
>>>>>>>> CLAN
>>>>>>>> MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
>>>>>>>> laugh
>>>>>>>> he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
>>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>>> lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>> into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
>>>>>>>> precious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think this could be one for alfred
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ook wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered
>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>> admin
>>>>>>>>> setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into
>>>>>>>>> admin
>>>>>>>>> setup via
>>>>>>>>> the web page and setup a server for it to use?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with
my
>>>>>>>>>> admin
>>>>>>>>>> team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
>>>>>>>>>> start up
>>>>>>>>>> the gameserver we get the following error
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:     RL 0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
>>>>>>>>>> also the
>>>>>>>>>> latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
>>>>>>>>>> looking
>>>>>>>>>> around the forums using google i can't find anything that
>>>>>>>>>> match's
>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>> problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs
>>>>>>>>>> below.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
>>>>>>>>>> UNRECOGNIZED
>>>>>>>>>> SERVER:
>>>>>>>>>>    RL 0
>>>>>>>>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
>>>>>>>>>> UNRECOGNIZED
>>>>>>>>>> SERVER:
>>>>>>>>>>    RL 0
>>>>>>>>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997:
>>>>>>>>>> UNRECOGNIZED
>>>>>>>>>> SERVER:
>>>>>>>>>>    RL 0
>>>>>>>>>> 3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
>>>>>>>>>> 2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm
>>>>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> patient person.
>>>>>>>>>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:57:08 +0000
From: "Daniel Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [hlds] Server Choke - Resolving problem / Improving performace
Reply-To: [email protected]

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Id like to thank everyone for there help

now they are CS:Source so SCRDS executables

Im running Win XP Pro SP2

Using whats on therer, what is the BEST confiduration / Optimal
configuration for the best performance

ALL of the hardware is P4 3.0Ghz 64 bit ( model 630's ) with 1GB ram and
i'l
be honest, im not too good at the configs, so any and as much help is
apprecited
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:09:55 +0000
From: David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac to do
so (logs contained)
Reply-To: [email protected]

well the only mods/plugns i have are mani beta L and hlstats. Since i
posted the logs i have rechecked all the possible ban list's and come up
with nothing. And hlstats is definielty reporting a vac ban. so all i
can say is wtf and if it's not a vac ban and i am postivie it's not my
plugins so what is it

Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) wrote:

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It looks like something else is banning him, not VAC. Must be some random
plugin. But you said earlier that he could play for a bit, and then VAC
would kick him. That sounds a bit like a VAC ban.

Hello trog :)

On 3/20/06, David Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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the log for the original instance is
http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log this contains 2
instances for 2 seperate ppl (1 each)

then it repeats but instead of 5 min bans they become permenant

<http://www.noquestionsasked.co.uk/downloads/l0319075.log>here's the log
of the second instance.

L 03/19/2006 - 23:38:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<54><STEAM_0:0:2237506><CT>" disconnected (reason "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T* timed out")
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<62><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10661"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:39:39: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<62><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" disconnected (reason "STEAM UserID
STEAM_0:0:2237506 is banned")

[at this point problem had been brought to my attention and i check the
ban_list.cfg file and removed 2 entries which had magically appeared]

L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:56: "gapontiac97<63><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "172.131.229.68:27005"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:43:58: "gapontiac97<63><STEAM_0:0:10570579><>" STEAM
USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: server_cvar: "mp_timelimit" "40"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:32: CONSOLE :  System vote extended map by 20
minutes
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:43: "{NQA:S} Malfurion *T*<64><STEAM_ID_PENDING><>"
connected, address "222.153.231.100:10734"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:44:45: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" STEAM USERID validated
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:03: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><>" entered the game
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:10: "Console<0><Console><Console>" say "Player [
{NQA:S} Malfurion *T* ] - zBlock Authenticated"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:13: "{NQA:S} Malfurion
*T*<64><STEAM_0:0:2237506><Unassigned>" joined team "CT"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:15: World triggered "Game_Commencing"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:18:
"{NQA:S}|M3PH|*cl*<38><STEAM_0:0:2411455><TERRORIST>" triggered
"Got_The_Bomb"
L 03/19/2006 - 23:45:22: World triggered "Round_Start"

now it does it again but leave no entry in the banned_user.cfg and here
is where we are now


Ook wrote:



Can you post the logs here? I'd (and I'm sure others) would like to see
them. By examining the logs, we might be able to shed some light on this
mystery.

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so




that is correct, we tested it. Also if he restarts steam he can join


for


a lil while before vac kicks him. of ig he joins then leaves straight
away he won't get back in. anyone else think this is strange. Also if
there is nothing we can do valve just lost a valuable customer (but
aren't customers valuable???) and before you ask i am positive it is a
vac ban. i had my host check the logs twice after i had 3 times

Ook wrote:



He is only VAC banned from your server? He can play on other VAC
enabled
servers?



----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so




ok i can understand that ook. I just think it's wrong that again


valve


has released a product that is unfinished/sub standard and banned
someone for just being shit. Also i did check the list on the hlstats
website and the user in question is not listed there but is listed in
the vac bans section of the control panel. also interestingly he is
only
vac banned from my server. which i think is extremely wierd becasue a
vac ban is system wide is it not? so can some one explain that away
for
me.

and finally a parting shot to all those assholes that said the ban


was


deserved. Wait till it happens to you and see how i laugh. (I won't
swear again but insert expletives here about 10 will do)

Ook wrote:



If VAC is reporting the ban, then you have to talk to Valve. But
don't
hold
your breath until they do something about it. No matter what the
reason,
your friend is pretty much screwed if VAC is reporting the ban.
However,
this has nothing to do with hlstatsx.


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac
to do
so




i was playing with him at the time he was banned. at first the
ban was
only server based but once we deleted the entriesa couple of
times vac
was reporting it. I personally can not stand hackers/cheaters i
think
they are worse than scum so he is innocent

Ook wrote:



hlstatx does not tell VAC to ban someone. If he got banned by
VAC, he
probably deserved it. If he is truely innocent, and VAC has


falsely


banned
yet another person, then your friend is screwed. He will need to


go


and buy
another key.

Did VAC ban him, or is he just banned form the server itself?
Hlstatsx
can
ban people from the server, and there are a couple of settings
that can
control this.

http://www.hlstatsx.com/faq#p6


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:52 PM
Subject: [hlds] can hlstatsx ban ppl???? coz i think it told vac


to


do so




on my post about hlstatsx, yeah i did my webadmin "forgot" to do
it. but
now i have a new problem with it. IT TOLD VAC TO BAN ONE OF MY
CLAN
MEMBERS FOR CHEATING. and trust me if you saw him play you would
laugh
he sucks so hard. there is no way he cheats and valve policy is
not to
lift any vac bans. WTF DO WE DO. coz i am not goin to put the
server
into insecure mode and let all the loser who do cheat play on my
precious.

I think this could be one for alfred

Ook wrote:



This happens in hlstats if you don't have the server entered
in the
admin
setup, or if the server game/ip is wrong. Have you gone into
admin
setup via
the web page and setup a server for it to use?

Did you ask in the hlstatsx forum?

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: [hlds] hlstatsx and cs:s




hey guys i really need some help here. I'm spend 4 hours with


my


admin
team trying to install hlstatsx. We got it all on no problems
and
everythng looked good to go with no problems. except when we
start up
the gameserver we get the following error

E997: UNRECOGNIZED SERVER:     RL 0.

we have no idea why. I'm using the latest beta of srcds and
also the
latest beter of mani. The error seems quite common but after
looking
around the forums using google i can't find anything that
match's
our
problem. Can anyone help i've put an example of the logs below.

2006-03-19 17:50:12:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
  RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "quit"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
  RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: Log file closed
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.117.195.31:27001 - E997: UNRECOGNIZED
SERVER:
  RL 0
3/19/2006 - 17:50:18: server_message: "restart"
2006-03-19 17:50:14:   87.

the logs are transfering and we can't honestly see why it
doesn't
work.
Has anyone met this error using hlstatsx?

let me know as i've spend now almost 5 hours on this and i'm
not a
very
patient person.

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