This is sorta out of topic, but most routers default to default deny or
nothing.  So for something like a typical nonsecurity concious setup, you
might first create a rule allowing all traffice (wan iface <--> local
iface), then go back and deny specific traffic you don't want coming in.
Or you might start with a rule denying all traffic then specifically
allowing types of traffic. (i for instance always deny everything then
just open specific ports both outbound and inbound.)

> i.c.  Another guy responded and explained why he (or his company) would
> restrict outbound, and I understand his reasoning, but I was thinking more
> along the lines of your particular case.  I would think that by including
> an
> outbound filter, unless you have very good reasons why you want to
> restrict
> users inside your firewall from getting anyplace on the Internet other
> than
> the IP's listed, that you are just creating a potential problem for
> yourself.  Also, you mentioned 2 outbound filters... the second being from
> "any" to "any".  Was this a typo? I know that the two are referencing diff
> protocols but I still can't help but believe this is incorrect.   Why
> would
> you create two outbound filters when the second filter essentially
> nullifies
> the first?  I would think, under normal circumstances, you would need an
> outbound filter that was simply set to allow everything and an inbound
> filter set to allow the appropriate protocols on the appropriate ports
> from
> "any" to (your server).
>
> This would basically open your servers initial connection port (whatever
> you
> selected) to any host on the Internet while allowing your server to get
> anyplace it needs to go.  My server is behind a WG firewall and I have the
> services configured as follows:
> Incoming "allow" (My HL server IP address) Protocols/ports UDP 27015 TCP
> 27015 from "any"
> Outgoing "allow" from "any" to "any"
> This works fine for me although I understand that different people may
> have
> reasons why they may want additional restrictions.
> btw... in the WG 700 I believe the proper terminology is "allowed and
> enabled".
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CYKO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:47 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was playable
> bu tnot listed by STEAM
>
>
> No Idea, it was in the knowledge base, but look here the game can be seen
> by
> game monitor
>
> CYKO'sT Low-Gravity Sniper!     [Play]
> IP: 69.74.70.242:27015 Players: 0/10 (average: 3.06)
> Map: DM_Snipe_Reborn_V2 (2)
>  Consecutive Failed: 0
> Game: Half-Life 2 Deathmatch
> Last Updated: 58s ago (cached: 0s) Month Uptime: % ( / )
> Last DB Update: 21m51s ago
>
> CYKO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 8:24 PM
> To: '[email protected]'
> Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was playable bu
> tnot listed by STEAM
>
> I'm curious... why the outgoing filter from any to a list of IP addresses?
> Why wouldn't you allow outbound from any to any?  I can see restricting
> inbound... but why outbound?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:57 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was playable
> but
> not listed by STEAM
>
>
> The Linksys was running perfectly! with a nat route public to private and
> I
> have set up the firebox according to this article.
>
> You will need to add the following 2 custom services to your "Outbound"
> firewall settings.
>
> CUSTOM SERVICE #1: (to allow you to log onto/dl updates from steam)
>
> Service Name: SteamLogonAuthAndUpdateServers (if firewall allows for
> names)
> (also: IP list updated to include Steam changes & Rag Doll Kung Foo update
> servers)
>
> Protocols:
> - TCP : 2790-2827
> - TCP : 2829-2999
> - TCP : 27009-27100
> - TCP : 1110-1139
>
> Outgoing Filter: Allow
> From: Any
> To:
> 65.39.204.210
> 68.142.72.250
> 68.142.88.250
> 68.142.88.34
> 69.90.119.2
> 69.28.151.62
> 69.28.151.82
> 69.28.151.162
> 69.28.151.178
> 69.28.151.190
> 69.28.153.82
> 69.28.163.62
> 69.28.173.38
> 82.71.218.105
> 82.39.204.210
> 146.82.146.110
> 207.173.177.11
> 207.173.177.12
> 207.173.177.13
> 207.173.177.14
> 207.173.177.15
> 207.173.177.16
> 207.173.177.17
> 207.173.177.18
> 207.173.177.19
> 207.173.177.100
> 207.173.177.110
> 207.173.177.120
> 207.173.177.130
> 207.173.177.140
> 207.173.177.150
> 207.173.177.160
> 207.173.177.170
> 207.173.177.180
> 207.173.177.190
> 207.173.177.200
> 207.173.177.210
> 207.173.177.220
> 208.146.35.121
>
>
> CUSTOM SERVICE #2: (to allow you to connect to game servers)
>
> Service Name: SteamGameServers (if firewall allows for names)
>
> Protocols:
> - UTP : 27010-27020 (note, other PC games may use additional ports, if so
> just simply add them to this list)
>
> Outgoing Filter: Allow
> From: Any
> To: Any
>
> CYKO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:07 pm
> Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was
> playable      but
> not listed by STEAM
>
>> sv_region 255 doesn't always work, but I believe you've previously had
>> it at 0 right?  Also might wanna specify sv_lan 0.
>>
>> It seriously sounds like an issue with the configuration of the
>> Firebox.Where you getting problems with your Linksys? (We are
>> currently hosting around 22000 servers using Linksys WRT54Gs with our
>> own custom OpenWRT distro for MAC filtering)
>>
>> On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 13:52 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > This Server was full fuctional on Friday, I replaced a linksys
>> router with the firebox on Saturday and configured the ports to foward
>> the game like it was for the linksys router.
>> >
>> > Here is full config file.
>> > // Use this file to configure your DEDICATED server.
>> > // This config file is executed everytime the server changes levels.
>> > // -------
>> > // Any modifications made to this file will not take affect
>> before the server has been restarted.
>> >
>> > hostname "CYKO'sT Low-Gravity Sniper - Original Flavor!"
>> > // Passwords
>> >
>> > //sv_password xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > rcon_password xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > // Server Settings
>> >
>> > Log 1
>> >
>> > sv_maxspeed 250
>> > sv_cheats 0
>> > sv_alltalk 0
>> > sv_minrate 50
>> > sv_maxrate 30000
>> > sv_gravity 85
>> > sv_allowupload 1
>> > sv_allowdownload 1
>> > sv_region 255
>> >
>> >
>> > sv_rcon_minfailures 2
>> > sv_rcon_maxfailures 3
>> > sv_rcon_banpenalty 60
>> > sv_rcon_minfailuretime 30
>> >
>> > mp_fraglimit 25
>> > mp_timelimit 0
>> > mp_flashlight 1
>> > mp_footsteps 1
>> > mp_forcerespawn 0
>> >
>> > // load ban files
>> > exec banned.cfg
>> > exec banned_ip.cfg
>> > exec mani_server.cfg
>> > exec weapons.cfg
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Stuart Stegall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Date: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:33 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was
>> playable but not listed by STEAM
>> >
>> > > There's actually a possibility of several things here.  One is
>> > > that a port is blocked upstream of your router.  Second is that
>> > > your
>> ip is
>> > > blocked by Valve.
>> > >
>> > > Sometimes upstream prodivers block ports who knows what
>> reason, though
>> > > generally it's because they are either being DoS'd or there's an
>> > > exploitthat's using that port and they are blocking it for a
>> > > couple of weeks.
>> > > Unless you have some kind of dedicated port, you generally
>> don't get
>> > > notified of these port blockings.
>> > >
>> > > The second problem could be checked by seeing if your shows up on
>> > > GameSpy.  We had an IP range we purchased that was being
>> blocked by
>> > > Valve (actually turned out it was being blocked by a LOT of
>> > > people, damn
>> > > hackers) and while we couldn't find it through the Steam server
>> > > listings, they did show up @ GameSpy.
>> > >
>> > > Also, I assume you've double checked that your Firebox is
>> > > forwarding the ports to this server.
>> > >
>> > > Post your full config file as well. (minus your rconpassword
>> please)> >
>> > > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 10:16 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > > > It is UDP ports 27010-27020
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > Date: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:50 am
>> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was
>> > > playable but not listed by STEAM
>> > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Good Luck
>> > > > > trying to get anywhere with UTP, you are going to
>> > > need it.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I think you will find the author of article meant UDP,
>> which may
>> > > > > allow you
>> > > > > to get somewhere.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On 3/27/06, CYKO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > From this article
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > >
>>
> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=297338&high
>> light=watchguard
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Whisper> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:32 AM
>> > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox
>> 700 was
>> > > > > playable> but
>> > > > > > not listed by STEAM
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> Universal Time
>> > > > > Protocol ?
>> > > > > > :D
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On 3/27/06, CYKO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I have added the following ports to be opened
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Protocols:
>> > > > > > > - TCP : 2790-2827
>> > > > > > > - TCP : 2829-2999
>> > > > > > > - TCP : 27009-27100
>> > > > > > > - TCP : 1110-1139
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > - UTP : 27010-27020
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > CYKO
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of kyle
>> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 1:36 AM
>> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox
>> 700 was
>> > > > > > > playable but not listed by STEAM
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sv_region
>> > > > > should be
>> > > > > > > set at either 1 or 255  if I'm correct.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > my server is set at 1, and it can be seen around the
>> world.> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -------Original Message-------
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > From: CYKO
>> > > > > > > Date: 03/26/06 15:52:57
>> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox
>> 700 was
>> > > > > > > playable but not listed by STEAM
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > sv_region 0
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > From the cfg file
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
>> Of kyle
>> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:35 PM
>> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox
>> 700 was
>> > > > > > > playable but not listed by STEAM
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>> What's your
>> > > > > region> > setting set to.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > -------Original Message-------
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > From: CYKO
>> > > > > > > Date: 03/26/06 14:20:53
>> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
>> > > > > > > Subject: [hlds] HL2DM Server now behind WG Firebox 700 was
>> > > > > playable> > but not listed by STEAM
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] HELP,
>> > > Perviously> > > > running server HL2DM, is still running and was
>> > > playable behind
>> > > > > a WG
>> > > > > > > Firebox 700, You can play the server as long as it is
>> in your
>> > > > > > > favorites, but if you list the internet games, the server
>> > > is not
>> > > > > > > listed. So no one new can see the game running, unless it
>> > > on their
>> > > > > > > favorits.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I have added a NAT entry (Public IP) to Internal
>> server (IP)
>> > > > > on the
>> > > > > > > firebox, that helps play the game, but I can not get the
>> > > > > server listed
>> > > > > > > by name, but if you add the IP into favorites, that
>> name comes
>> > > > > up. But
>> > > > > > > that now has stopped working, No i can not even get on the
>> > > > > server.!> >
>> > > > > > > What ports besides 27015 do I need to openup on the
>> firewall?> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > CYKO
>> > > > > > > --
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