hehe,

Well I'm sure we can get better at adding try/catch I certainly can. But
adding any errors we find to event log would not be that helpful. As those
admins who rent servers are likely not to have access to the event log (
Also I don't think admins are gonna check the event log for errors regarding
their servers, their gonna check the server logs + admin tool logs ). So the
challage is to get a meaning full error into there.

And the reason i replyed, to make my previus email more clear. "anyone"
should be able to find out what crashed their server ( as long as they can
download the crash files from the srcds root folder).
Simple download VS.net ( 2005 Express Edition is free, i assume it comes
with a debuger ). Open the dump file. Find the callstack window, and there
you should see what plugin last did something (You may have to scroll a bit
down).
Then simply contact the author of that tool, and give him the crash dump.
Offcourse a certain way of reproducing the crash is allways better in my
book ;)

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: 2. juli 2006 13:27
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes

Thanks for the tip on the crashdump - trying that now to see if it isolates
things a bit better.  As to "predicting where the bugs are gonna happen" -
the whole point of wrapping ALL non-trivial blocks of code in
error-reporting exception handling is exactly that "we" don't know where the
bugs are :)


http://gearbox.oathill.com/cbb/blogs/dawgs_blawg/archive/2006/06/06/32.aspx


cheers,

Frazer




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erling K. Sæterdal
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes

If your running a windows server, then your srcds generates crash dumps.
That can be debugged in VS.net ( Off course your gonnna be limited in the
information that's shown without the pdb files) or sends to the plugin
developer.
I'm sure "we" could start adding a bite more error handlig code, the problem
is predicting where the bugs are gonna happen :)


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frazer
Sent: 2. juli 2006 02:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes

Thanks - already running on Windows Server 2003.  I suspect the issue is
addons and suspect statsme, versus mani.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 8:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes

Frazer,
     As a baseline for you, I just moved both of my game servers over to a
datacenter to a Server2003 box and they have been totally crash free since
the update ... and as you might guess ...for the HL2DM server I don't use
any server addons at all.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Frazer"
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: [hlds] srcds Crashing Woes


> Since the new update, I have been experiencing more than the usual
> number of srcds crashes.  I suspect an addon - possibly mani or
> statsme minimum (these are the only two I run).
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing a recent increase
> in server crashes?
>
> Looking at my logs, this seems to happen on a map change.  The game
> play log for the ending map closes correctly.  The "loading map" log
> is created and closed correctly.  The game play log for the next level
> is opened - but the server crashes before things get started.
>
> Also, I am interested in which version combinations of Mani and
> StatsMe minimum that folks are using who have reasonably stable
> servers, since the new upgrade.
>
> <rant>
> I am not a server guy, my thing is writing code.  While I am grateful
> for the great addons and mods that are available, I am always puzzled
> that their developers don't wrap their code in decent exception
> handling and dump a simple message to the application or system log
> when their dll's are about to puke.  It would be SO nice to look in
> the event log and see something
> like: "LameMod v2.3 unhandled My_Oopsie exception".  Then, instead of
> the whole guessing and trial and error thing, we might be able to
> isolate the source of problems a hell of a lot quicker.  Hell, if the
> developer is creative in their exception logging, it can even *gasp*
> help them find bugs!"
>
> Just sayin'...
> </rant>
>
> Frazer


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