-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For those that pay attention to when VAC is updated, when was it last updated?
On 8/8/06, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For such cases there is always a demo at hand while I'm speaking about > obvious cheaters like those who track a target through the wall - very > attractive movie for the public! Like this one - > http://public.otstrel.ru/otstrel/private/demo3.avi (6MB) > > Regards. > > On 07/08/06, Ryan Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > movies also introduce editing, and sometimes the lack of ingame sound > which > > can make the 'movie' bias. i would say watching the demo is > better 'proof' > > so to speak than a movie.lots of people get lucky, lots of people have > good > > headphones, a movie can make anyone look like a cheater. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS. > > > > > > > Not sure what it looks like in Shared bans but we do have similar > > > project here in Russia and mandatory requirement to add new ban into > > > system is that you must have a proof of cheating - demo file, > > > preferably with movies illustrating the reason. By the way - movies > > > really help to increase people's confidence in project since very few > > > players are really willing to download demo files and watch them > > > trying to recognise cheats while movies are very visual and easy to > > > understand proofs. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > On 07/08/06, Alex Dignam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There is one downside to Shared bans... say for example the Admin on > a > > > > server with shared bans has the mental age of a 5 year old, and > decides > > to > > > > ban you, you havnt done anything wrong yet as well as being banned > from > > 1 > > > > server your banned from all servers with shared bans, you havnt done > > > > anything wrong, and your banned.. how nice > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Dave Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC in CSS. > > > > >Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:24:48 +0100 > > > > > > > > > >vac is inadequate and does need help. I run steambans which does > help > > > > >keep the cheaters out especially now they have merged with > sharedbans. > > > > >The problem with vac is that it's a stationary target. the code has > > been > > > > >set and hasn't been updated. Streambans on the other hand is > constantly > > > > >being developed to improve it. > > > > > > > > > >In short. if you are having problems with vac give it a bit of help > and > > > > >look at www.steambans.com > > > > > > > > > >Wayne wrote: > > > > > > A question for fellow Admins. > > > > > > > > > > > > Where I am a volunteer server Admin we have 33 CSS servers which > are > > > > >very > > > > > > well frequented and extremely active. > > > > > > > > > > > > We have a server watch program running that alerts us to the > > presence of > > > > > > troublesome players, or players we know to have been caught > cheating > > off > > > > >our > > > > > > servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > We run a strict policy of not banning people who did not cheat > on > > our > > > > > > servers; this policy will NOT be changing, so please no > statements > > about > > > > > > changing it, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > We also have a fairly robust reporting system for > > > > >trouble/cheating/suspect > > > > > > players, which often gets additions from servers we do not run, > i.e. > > > > >from > > > > > > other ISPs etc, these are added to our server watch but NOT > banned. > > > > > > > > > > > > What is currently troubling me is the overall effectiveness of > VAC, > > > > >several > > > > > > players who were submitted to us for cheating, though our > reporting > > > > >system, > > > > > > who were BLATANTLY cheating, but on another server, have NOT > been > > picked > > > > >up > > > > > > by VAC. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even demos of the most blatant aimbot use have gone undetected > by > > VAC, > > > > > > months down the track, these players are not cheating on our > servers > > at > > > > >this > > > > > > point in time, but where is the effectiveness of VAC? > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm left wondering if there is that much effectiveness in it, > why we > > > > > > continue to secure our servers, when even the most blatant > cheating > > is > > > > > > getting by. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is currently a wave of releases coming from the makers, > > multihacks > > > > > > that boast almost all cheats possible, fully configurable and > > > > >adjustable, > > > > > > all boasting the fact they are yet to be detected by VAC. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even after the sites have been e-mailed directly to Alfred, to > be > > > > >forwarded > > > > > > onto the proper department. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have VALVe moved on from CSS already, are we left with a game so > > riddled > > > > > > with cheating it is pointless trying to stop them, when it only > > costs > > > > >$20 > > > > > > Aus to just grab another CDKEY, in the event VAC actually > catches > > them? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not anti-VAC, just anti being hung out to dry. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > D1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > >please visit: > > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses > > > > http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
