If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from the LAN side. Click the LAN tab, your server should list there. Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).
-----Original Message----- From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I was not able to see the server list?? I joined in LOMAC and that worked then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server?? So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too?? THNX Gerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. > No need for the whole group to see this..... Please continue to use the > group for troubleshooting. > > > I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look > close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and > my external IP is 75.117.144.3 I am also including my command line to > show > you that the IP address isn't even listed. > > D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname > "Warcraft3 > Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll > addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll > -vacbeta -autoupdate > > It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the > dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server > kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your > server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. > This > will prove that your port forwarding is right. > > If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam > menu > server away and reload/reinstall it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. > > well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all > them > why do they say to open them all?? > I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for > those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco > Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it > said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it > your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody > joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get > passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know > what > you mean by my knowledge level ?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. > > >> Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to >> forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow >> outbound without rules). As for requesting that info, it's basic >> troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or >> NAT device. The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your >> router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not >> trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the >> details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a >> possible cause. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >> >> @DlinkOZ >> >> I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site. >> Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another >> website here is the link: >> >> http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=00129 >> 0 >> >> Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info >> THNX!! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >> >> >>> I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've >>> done? >>> Such as: >>> >>> "I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server" >>> >>> That would give us something to go on. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>> >>> ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. >>> you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your >>> computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an >>> internal and external IP. >>> when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer >>> is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same >>> goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it >>> because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding >>> or setting up a DMZ. >>> In >>> the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im >>> pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that >>> is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your >>> computer, you cant bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server >>> using your ip from my house. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>> >>> >>>> @Michael >>>> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error: >>>> >>>> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk. >>>> Dropped Nephilim from server >>>> Reason: Client sent 'drop' >>>> >>>> >>>> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my >>>> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External?? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM >>>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>>> >>>> > At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has >>>> > enough power, you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days >>>> > while fixing my server. >>>> > At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the >>>> > server console that will give a hint to your problem. >>>> > >>>> > BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru. >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald >>>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> > >>>> > @Scott >>>> > I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise >>>> > they >>> need >>>> > nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem >>>> > Hosting >>> other >>>> > games just Halflife on Steam?? and I dont wanna do a Dedicated >>>> > server >>> as >>>> > I >>>> > wanna play as well. >>>> > Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. >>> Somewhat >>>> > usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are >>>> > open >>> or >>>> > Not. >>>> > >>>> > that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware >>>> > or Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have >>>> > exhausted >>> all >>>> > the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent >>>> > here by the support site to get an answer to my question that they >>>> > couldn't answer >>> why >>>> > I >>>> > cant Host?? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> > To: <[email protected]> >>>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM >>>> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Steam page to test ports???? What is that? I am not aware of that. >>>> >> >>>> >> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work. >>>> >> >>>> >> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address? >>>> >> >>>> >> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on >>>> >> www.gametiger.net ? >>>> >> >>>> >> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it >>>> >> is seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work. But you might also >>>> >> check to make sure you have the sv_region set properly. >>>> >> >>>> >> http://tinyurl.com/h35as >>>> >> >>>> >> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered >>>> >> support >>> area. >>>> >> >>>> >> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s >>>> >> >>>> >> Please check the very first 4 results from this search. If you >>>> >> have already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and >>>> >> then verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again. >>>> >> Triple check them. Because these are all you need. >>>> >> >>>> >> -Scott >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM >>>> >>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> @DlinkOz >>>> >>> here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can >>>> >>> see I passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if >>>> >>> it was that simple I could solve it!! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> THNX Gerald >>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM >>>> >>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have >>>> >>> you put in >>>> >>> > place? Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent >>>> >>> firewall to allow >>>> >>> > direct IP connections. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> >>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald >>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM >>>> >>> > To: [email protected] >>>> >>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > well you would LOOSe that bet;) Port Forwarding is Setup >>>> >>> Properly It is >>>> >>> > NOT >>>> >>> > a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!! >>>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> > To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM >>>> >>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set >>>> >>> up properly. >>>> >>> > If >>>> >>> > port forwarding is done right the game server will work, >>>> >>> people will be >>>> >>> > able >>>> >>> > to connect and it will eventually show up in the master >>>> >>> server list. I do >>>> >>> > not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just >>>> >>> > fine. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is >>>> >>> > probably starting the server from the steam menu. You never >>>> >>> > see a command >>>> >>> line from there. >>>> >>> > It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it >>>> >>> makes it very >>>> >>> > hard to help someone out. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't >>>> >>> have one. It's >>>> >>> > a >>>> >>> > pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I >>>> >>> just wish I >>>> >>> > could >>>> >>> > get more bandwidth in this hick town. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT >>>> >>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list" >>>> >>> >> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list >>>> >>> at valve: not >>>> >>> >> relevant >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly >>>> >>> >> configed/connected) >>>> >>> >> your server will be added to the master list automatically. >>>> >>> >> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an >>>> >>> >> easy to remember why to find a computer on internet (like >>>> >>> >> www, ftp, email). >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually >>>> >>> >> in the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP" >>>> >>> >> Now I get it. ^__^ >>>> >>> >> I tested it and that works indeed. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at >>>> >>> home. #^_^# >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM >>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is >>>> >>> correct, but the >>>> >>> >> > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in >>>> >>> the server list, >>>> >>> >> > so >>>> >>> >> > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is >>>> >>> hosting the >>>> >>> >> > srcds >>>> >>> >> > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip >>>> >>> manually in the >>>> >>> >> > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some >>>> >>> like to make >>>> >>> >> > life >>>> >>> >> > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a >>>> >>> static ip if your >>>> >>> >> > ISP >>>> >>> >> > doesnt provide it free of charge. >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> >> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> > To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM >>>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> >> @gerald >>>> >>> >> >> In the startup string add: >>>> >>> >> >> +ip <external ip> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123 >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> That should do it. >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> @jose >>>> >>> >> >> ..... really, how is a domainname going to tell an >>>> >>> application that >>>> >>> >> >> wants >>>> >>> >> >> an >>>> >>> >> >> *IP* which IP it should use? >>>> >>> >> >> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname. >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> >> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> >> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM >>>> >>> >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free >>>> >>> domain like >>>> >>> >> >>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org i believe >>>> >>> is one, there >>>> >>> >> >>> are >>>> >>> >> >>> more >>>> >>> >> >>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a >>>> >>> domain instead of >>>> >>> >> >>> ip >>>> >>> >> >>> as >>>> >>> >> >>> well. So that would be your best solution right now. >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> Hope this info helped out >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> The Sourcekillaz Team >>>> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> >> >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM >>>> >>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>>> YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if >>>> >>> you DONT wanna >>>> >>> >> >>>> Answer >>>> >>> >> >>>> my Question thean DONT!! >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>> My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that >>>> >>> covered. the problem >>>> >>> >> >>>> is >>>> >>> >> >>>> that >>>> >>> >> >>>> Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to >>>> >>> use my EXTERNAL >>>> >>> >> >>>> IP!! >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>> READ THE POST SHEESH!! >>>> >>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>> >> >>>> From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>> >> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM >>>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because.. >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>> Heard of google dood, sheesh? >>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>> anyways.. >>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>> http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm >>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>> --- Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>> >> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> -- >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get >>>> >>> some sort of >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> error >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> ? im >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> behind a router and i can run both a server and >>>> >>> steam and connect. >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> if >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> others >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> want to connect u have to forward the ports on the >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> router >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> On 06/10/06, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > -- >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as >>>> >>> they couldnt >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> answer my >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > question so they said to post here. >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > I read in the STEAM support site that the reason >>>> >>> I cant HOST >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> HalfLife is >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP >>>> >>> and it Needs an >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> Exterenal IP. >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife >>>> >>> use my External >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> IP?? I am >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > THNX >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > Gerald >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> > -- >>>> >>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> >> >>> list archives, please visit: >>>> >>> >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> >> >> please visit: >>>> >>> >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> >> > please visit: >>>> >>> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> > >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> >> please visit: >>>> >>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> > please visit: >>>> >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> > please visit: >>>> >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> >>> list archives, >>>> >>> > please visit: >>>> >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> archives, please visit: >>>> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >> archives, please visit: >>>> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> > archives, >>>> > please visit: >>>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> > archives, >>>> > please visit: >>>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
