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The guy speaks from the player's POV and simply doesn't give a thing about
admins' problems like servers migration or load balancing.

Newbie

-----Original Message-----

From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: [email protected]

Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:42:43 +0300

Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for redirect in
SCRDS?




Now I see. There must be only two opinions about everything - yours

and wrong one. Let me stick to the wrong one please as I'm pretty

happy with it :)



On 18/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> You don't need it either, plus pretty much every player that ever

> gets redirected finds it annoying as fuck. I'm not saying you couldn't

> find ways to use/abuse it, I'm sure you could and would. But you don't

> need it.

>

> On 12/18/06, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >

> > Looks like your only argument presented in different wordings is "I

> > don't need it, ". The fact that you don't need this tool or don't know

> > how to properly apply this tool does not make it less valuable to

> > other admins. And I'm not going to waste my time convincing you that

> > you need it because with your single server you don't :)

> >

> > On 18/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > --

> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

> > > Regulars knew the domain name, and it was no problem at all.

> > > I did not see any kind of player drop on our server when we

> > > relocated.

> > >

> > > > "(would you rather join an empty or populated server?)."

> > > I would rather join a populated server, which I would expect to

> > > join when I do.

> > >

> > > > "I think by load balancing it's more meant to keep the two or

> > > > more servers full.. (correct me if I'm wrong)."

> > > Do you actually play this game? You barely, if ever, get moved

> > > to a server worth while. Either the server is empty, has some

> > > fucked up gameplay mods, or has piranesi kind of map. No

> > > thanks.

> > >

> > >

> > > On 12/18/06, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Oppss

> > > >

> > > > I meant:

> > > >

> > > > Once the client resolves an IP to that subdomain, the client saves
the

> > IP

> > > > addy in it's favourites and not the domain name.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Barnett

> > > > Sent: 18 December 2006 01:32

> > > > To: [email protected]

> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for

> > redirect in

> > > > SCRDS?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Automatic server redirects are gone for good. As an admin that never

> > > > abused

> > > > them, I'm quite angry at those that did. Such people even used to
brag

> > on

> > > > various forums that their servers were full, but at whose expense?

> > > >

> > > > I hope some kind of redirect that asks the user, will be
implemented.

> > As

> > > > for

> > > > using a sub-domain for a server, it doesn't work...once the client

> > > > resolves

> > > > an IP to that subdomain, the client saves the IP addy in it's

> > favourites

> > > > and

> > > > not the IP address.

> > > >

> > > > Chris.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds

> > > > Sent: 18 December 2006 00:39

> > > > To: [email protected]

> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for

> > redirect in

> > > > SCRDS?

> > > >

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> > > > > Seems like you never had an experience of migrating your servers
to

> > > > > another ISP. Not to mention other cases when redirection can be
very

> > > > > useful - load balancing and promoting new server just to name a
few.

> > > > > Fortunately, as far as I know, Mani promised to restore this

> > > > > functionality in next version of his mod.

> > > >

> > > > I sure did, you should consider getting a subdomain to refer to your

> > > > server.

> > > > I had "deathmatch.BoooM.co.uk", when we needed to "change IP", we

> > > > could do that without any problem at all. "Load balancing"? Are you

> > > > kidding?

> > > > If a server can't handle 18 players, it should simply not have 18

> > slots,

> > > > there

> > > > is no problem here. "Promoting new servers"? Why? Why should these

> > > > servers get any additional promotion over any other new server out

> > there?

> > > > If the server is good, it'll get it's own crowd.

> > > >

> > > > On 12/17/06, [GS]Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: "Thortok2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:54 AM

> > > > >

> > > > > > What I'd like to see:  In the 'this server is full, auto-retry'

> > dialog

> > > > > > box,

> > > > > > have a 'this server recommends' and have a button to push to go
to

> > the

> > > > > > server it recommends.  Also, if you attempt to connect to the

> > server

> > > > and

> > > > > > they don't want you playing there, it could be a 'this server is

> > > > closed,

> > > > > > go

> > > > > > here instead, please update your favorites' and again have the

> > button.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Automatically redirecting you...no, I don't like that, I don't

> > like

> > > > that

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > all.

> > > > >

> > > > > I actually like this idea and think it should be
implemented.Thenyou

> > > > > could

> > > > > have a cvar kinda like the fast download in your server.cfg which

> > you

> > > > > could

> > > > > advertise for friendly servers or yours or even other servers you

> > own.Or

> > > > > make it to where gaming communites could put multiple servers in

> > there

> > > > and

> > > > > it would advertise what map and how many players are on it with
join

> > > > > buttons

> > > > > along side them.Basically you could make a community over view
join

> > > > > button.The reason I like it is because of how many people go "oh I

> > > > didn't

> > > > > know you had that server!"

> > > > >

> > > > > And Frazer what you said was just funny.But you have a point.But
it

> > > > would

> > > > > be

> > > > > nice to have the ability.Or maybe even put it into another tab,
like

> > you

> > > > > have the recent servers make a list from that server config file

> > that

> > > > > lists

> > > > > in blue offset alittle the other servers they suggest.Like upto 10

> > > > servers

> > > > > or something to that effect.Just my $.02 .

> > > > >

> > > > > -BeNt-

> > > > > http://www.gorillazsouth.com [http://www.gorillazsouth.com/]

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > > --

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