-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As previously noted, the reserved slots issue could be resolved fairly easily, past that. Please don't get me wrong, I really wouldn't mind a "this server recommends these alternatives" approach, or "link server network" kind of solution. I however do oppose to giving admins the "connect" console command back as it previously were.
On 12/19/06, john @ GamersCoalition <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't forget, we need to pay taxes =) > > Pubbers may find it "annoying" to be redirected, but they might also > find it "annoying" to not be able to connect to a server showing 20/23 > because of 3 reserve slots. We use redirects to help players find a > server to play on. We use(d) redirects to distribute players, not > alter players rates, etc. I'm not entirely susre how this would be > "abused," though I can see it being "annoying." > > I'll stop using "quotes" when you start acknowledging the other "POV," > wim. And thanks for zBlock, it was a very useful plugin. > > Cheers, > > SJ > > On 12/18/06, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wim, > > > > Please stop telling people they don't need stuff. > > > > Sorry to those who have read this before. > > > > We don't need to play CS:S > > > > We don't need to play DOD:S > > > > We don't need mods. > > > > We don't need food. > > > > We don't need air. > > > > The only thing in life we need to do is die. That's why we all pay so > much > > money to practice killing people. > > > > People say that automatic redirects are annoying as hell. Fine. > > > > Server admins recognise that therefore we want a COMPROMISE solution > which > > redirects people with their PERMISSION. > > > > Cheers. > > > > Chris. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds > > Sent: 18 December 2006 18:11 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for redirect > in > > SCRDS? > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > I do give a crap about admin problems and alike, if I didn't I wouldn't > have > > been 1 of the co-authors of zBlock, among a crapload of other stuff. > IMO; > > it's important to not have the feature from a player's point of view, > and > > it's not all that important to have the feature from a server admin > point of > > view. > > > > On 12/18/06, Newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > The guy speaks from the player's POV and simply doesn't give a thing > about > > > admins' problems like servers migration or load balancing. > > > > > > Newbie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:42:43 +0300 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for > redirect in > > > SCRDS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I see. There must be only two opinions about everything - yours > > > > > > and wrong one. Let me stick to the wrong one please as I'm pretty > > > > > > happy with it :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > > You don't need it either, plus pretty much every player that ever > > > > > > > gets redirected finds it annoying as fuck. I'm not saying you > couldn't > > > > > > > find ways to use/abuse it, I'm sure you could and would. But you > don't > > > > > > > need it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/18/06, Roman Hatsiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like your only argument presented in different wordings is > "I > > > > > > > > don't need it, ". The fact that you don't need this tool or don't > know > > > > > > > > how to properly apply this tool does not make it less valuable to > > > > > > > > other admins. And I'm not going to waste my time convincing you > that > > > > > > > > you need it because with your single server you don't :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 18/12/06, Wim Barelds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > > > > Regulars knew the domain name, and it was no problem at all. > > > > > > > > > I did not see any kind of player drop on our server when we > > > > > > > > > relocated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "(would you rather join an empty or populated server?)." > > > > > > > > > I would rather join a populated server, which I would expect to > > > > > > > > > join when I do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I think by load balancing it's more meant to keep the two or > > > > > > > > > > more servers full.. (correct me if I'm wrong)." > > > > > > > > > Do you actually play this game? You barely, if ever, get moved > > > > > > > > > to a server worth while. Either the server is empty, has some > > > > > > > > > fucked up gameplay mods, or has piranesi kind of map. No > > > > > > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/18/06, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oppss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I meant: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once the client resolves an IP to that subdomain, the client > saves > > > the > > > > > > > > IP > > > > > > > > > > addy in it's favourites and not the domain name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris > > > Barnett > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 18 December 2006 01:32 > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for > > > > > > > > redirect in > > > > > > > > > > SCRDS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Automatic server redirects are gone for good. As an admin that > > > never > > > > > > > > > > abused > > > > > > > > > > them, I'm quite angry at those that did. Such people even used > to > > > brag > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > various forums that their servers were full, but at whose > expense? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope some kind of redirect that asks the user, will be > > > implemented. > > > > > > > > As > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > using a sub-domain for a server, it doesn't work...once the > client > > > > > > > > > > resolves > > > > > > > > > > an IP to that subdomain, the client saves the IP addy in it's > > > > > > > > favourites > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > not the IP address. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chris. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim > > > Barelds > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 18 December 2006 00:39 > > > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for > > > > > > > > redirect in > > > > > > > > > > SCRDS? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > > > > > > Seems like you never had an experience of migrating your > servers > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > another ISP. Not to mention other cases when redirection can > be > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > useful - load balancing and promoting new server just to > name a > > > few. > > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, as far as I know, Mani promised to restore this > > > > > > > > > > > functionality in next version of his mod. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I sure did, you should consider getting a subdomain to refer > to > > > your > > > > > > > > > > server. > > > > > > > > > > I had "deathmatch.BoooM.co.uk", when we needed to "change IP", > we > > > > > > > > > > could do that without any problem at all. "Load balancing"? > Are > > > you > > > > > > > > > > kidding? > > > > > > > > > > If a server can't handle 18 players, it should simply not have > 18 > > > > > > > > slots, > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > is no problem here. "Promoting new servers"? Why? Why should > these > > > > > > > > > > servers get any additional promotion over any other new server > out > > > > > > > > there? > > > > > > > > > > If the server is good, it'll get it's own crowd. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/17/06, [GS]Admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Thortok2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I'd like to see: In the 'this server is full, > > > auto-retry' > > > > > > > > dialog > > > > > > > > > > > > box, > > > > > > > > > > > > have a 'this server recommends' and have a button to push > to > > > go > > > to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > server it recommends. Also, if you attempt to connect to > the > > > > > > > > server > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > they don't want you playing there, it could be a 'this > server > > > is > > > > > > > > > > closed, > > > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > here instead, please update your favorites' and again have > the > > > > > > > > button. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Automatically redirecting you...no, I don't like that, I > don't > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually like this idea and think it should be > > > implemented.Thenyou > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > have a cvar kinda like the fast download in your > server.cfgwhich > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > > > advertise for friendly servers or yours or even other > servers > > > you > > > > > > > > own.Or > > > > > > > > > > > make it to where gaming communites could put multiple > servers in > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > it would advertise what map and how many players are on it > with > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > buttons > > > > > > > > > > > along side them.Basically you could make a community over > view > > > join > > > > > > > > > > > button.The reason I like it is because of how many people go > "oh > > > I > > > > > > > > > > didn't > > > > > > > > > > > know you had that server!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And Frazer what you said was just funny.But you have a > point.But > > > it > > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > nice to have the ability.Or maybe even put it into another > tab, > > > like > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > have the recent servers make a list from that server config > file > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > lists > > > > > > > > > > > in blue offset alittle the other servers they suggest.Likeupto > > > 10 > > > > > > > > > > servers > > > > > > > > > > > or something to that effect.Just my $.02 . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -BeNt- > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.gorillazsouth.com [http://www.gorillazsouth.com/] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > [http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 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