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yeah

Just 1 million+ CyberCafe Accounts. :)

On 4/22/07, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> There are not 1 million+ CyberCafe account suscribers.
>
> chad wrote:
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> > 200 cards * 5 tries each gives 1 valid number, so .5% * 1 million cards
> stolen
> > gives 5000 valid credit cards per million stolen, wouldn't it?
> > Cc2iscooL wrote:
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> > You have records of the number, but the security code on the back cannot
> be
> > stored except with encryption of the highest available
> standards...that's
> > the thing that makes it work, and it's not like you can bruteforce a
> > security key, because if you fail too many times the red flag at the
> card
> > provider goes up and the card becomes useless anyway.
> >
> > On 4/18/07, Ryan Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[1] wrote:
> >
> >
> > How then do they give steam accounts back if you can provide the credit
> > card# used when purchasing?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 10:16 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve Hacking coverup?
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> > Haha, yeah. They don't store any CC data I'm sure, if you haven't noted
> > yet
> > they ask you for ALL of your information EVERY time you buy a new game.
> > They
> > might keep records of purchases (duh?) but they don't store CC #'s and
> > definitely not the security codes.
> >
> > Good luck hacking something that doesn't exist ;)
> >
> > On 4/18/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[5] wrote:
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> > 1. Californian State Laws don't apply to Washington State companies
> >
> > 2. Vendors are required NOT to keep credit card numbers for 1 off
> > transactions. Only vendors who have scheduled payments from a customer
> >
> >
> > can
> >
> >
> > do this, and even those details are supposed to be heavily encrypted. I
> > guess if there is a special STEAM system for cheaters that automatically
> > debits a persons credit card everytime they get VAC banned and issued
> >
> >
> > with
> >
> >
> > a
> > new STEAM Account, then maybe Valve do have customers credit card
> >
> >
> > numbers,
> >
> >
> > but then again, if those are the credit card numbers Valve have stored,
> >
> >
> > do
> >
> >
> > we care? :)
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