Roman, I'm sorry, but you don't know what you are talking about.
File A - On the server File A - On the client Does it matter if file A is from the original game vendor or not? No, it doesn't. What matters is that file A is the same on both the server and client. I don't care whether Valve, some German dude or my cat made File A, what matters is that it's the same on both the client and the server. It's really that simple. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev Sent: 30 April 2007 14:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request My point is that consistency of original resources is HUGE leap forward to fair play and it has nothing to do with vanilla servers. There are far too many unfair things that can be done just by replacing of few files on client side. You don't really need a software cheat to get a significant advantage over other players. On 30/04/07, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's to only enforce the original resources provided by Steam and not the > server operator, then it's a complete and utter total waste of time then, > unless you are one of those very, very vocal 5%ers, who are trying to force > the vanilla game on the rest of us of course...(I don't believe you are by > the way). > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev > Sent: 28 April 2007 07:19 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request > > I think that the idea behind pure server mode is to force the > consistency of original resources delivered via Steam, not to prevent > people from using custom maps. > > On 28/04/07, Chris Barnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want a pure server, don't install anything on top. > > > > There is no need for Valve to do anything. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keeper > > Sent: 27 April 2007 15:54 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request > > > > Quoted from the whitelist: > > > > // > > // Three types of file specifications: > > // > > // 1. directory\*.* - refers to all files under the directory > > // 2. directory\... - refers to all files under the directory > > and all directories under that (recursively) > > // 3. directory\filename - refers to a single file > > > > Best way and easiest would be to do the second one. > > > > Like they show: > > > > // > > // By default, when in pure server mode, most content file types are > only > > allowed to come from Steam. > > // > > materials\... from_steam > > models\... from_steam > > sounds\... from_steam > > scripts\... from_steam > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Will > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 10:23 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request > > > > could you be so kind to point out how that could be done without listing > the > > 8,837 files in 273 folders in a whitelist? > > > > Thanks > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:27 AM > > Subject: hlds digest, Vol 1 #5351 - 2 msgs > > > > > > > Send hlds mailing list submissions to > > > [email protected] > > > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Pure Server Mode Question / Request (Will) > > > 2. Re: Pure Server Mode Question / Request (Wim Barelds) > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > From: "Will" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:59:24 -0400 > > > Subject: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > We want to lock all default game content to use only steam files, > > > everything > > > no "replacement" allowed at all for default game content. > > > We run servers that plays many default maps but also many custom maps, > we > > > want to allow files from disk only for custom maps with the crc checks > as > > > there will be no steam files for these. Will this be possible or are we > > > left > > > out of all this by running custom maps? > > > > > > Can there be a var for all default content from Steam but allow files > from > > > disk with crc for content that was not delivered from Steam? > > > if in steam use steam if not use from disk and crc > > > > > > Looking at the whitelist I don't see a way to do this without adding all > > > the > > > files for 150 custom maps file by file to the whitelist, many custom map > > > files do not path to /custommapname/ > > > > > > > > > Also a viewable var for this"? > > > I would think many league and community type servers would want to run > in > > > such a mode, with a viewable var so it can be checked by players in game > > > or > > > hlsw. > > > I think the viewable vars is important to remove suspicion. > > > sv_pure 0/1/2 > > > say 2 for default = use whitelist > > > say 1 From Steam only for all default files and > allow_from_disk+check_crc > > > for any non steam content > > > 0 off > > > > > > I recall awhile back you saying you were going to look into removing > some > > > unneeded vars from the server query, can you please make room in the > > > server > > > query for vars from plugins by removing some like: > > > r_VehicleViewDampen > > > r_JeepViewDampenFreq > > > r_JeepViewDampenDamp > > > r_JeepViewZHeight > > > r_AirboatViewDampenFreq > > > r_AirboatViewDampenDamp > > > r_AirboatViewZHeight > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:28:25 +0200 > > > From: "Wim Barelds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Pure Server Mode Question / Request > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > You should be able to do most of what you want simply by modifying the > > > whitelist. > > > > > > On 4/27/07, Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > > >> We want to lock all default game content to use only steam files, > > >> everything > > >> no "replacement" allowed at all for default game content. > > >> We run servers that plays many default maps but also many custom maps, > we > > >> want to allow files from disk only for custom maps with the crc checks > as > > >> there will be no steam files for these. Will this be possible or are we > > >> left > > >> out of all this by running custom maps? > > >> > > >> Can there be a var for all default content from Steam but allow files > > >> from > > >> disk with crc for content that was not delivered from Steam? > > >> if in steam use steam if not use from disk and crc > > >> > > >> Looking at the whitelist I don't see a way to do this without adding > all > > >> the > > >> files for 150 custom maps file by file to the whitelist, many custom > map > > >> files do not path to /custommapname/ > > >> > > >> > > >> Also a viewable var for this"? > > >> I would think many league and community type servers would want to run > in > > >> such a mode, with a viewable var so it can be checked by players in > game > > >> or > > >> hlsw. > > >> I think the viewable vars is important to remove suspicion. > > >> sv_pure 0/1/2 > > >> say 2 for default = use whitelist > > >> say 1 From Steam only for all default files and > allow_from_disk+check_crc > > >> for any non steam content > > >> 0 off > > >> > > >> I recall awhile back you saying you were going to look into removing > some > > >> unneeded vars from the server query, can you please make room in the > > >> server > > >> query for vars from plugins by removing some like: > > >> r_VehicleViewDampen > > >> r_JeepViewDampenFreq > > >> r_JeepViewDampenDamp > > >> r_JeepViewZHeight > > >> r_AirboatViewDampenFreq > > >> r_AirboatViewDampenDamp > > >> r_AirboatViewZHeight > > >> > > >> > > >> Thank you > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ___________________________ > > > Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > End of hlds Digest > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
