If you ask me the new info box is just silly looking and 
its annoying to read.



> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 00:21:46 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated 
> Server update released> > my servers still only show up half the time in the 
> list. i gave up a > long time ago trying.> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > Tell 
> me about it, but I have to admit, steam blows what activision does for> > 
> online play of COD4 out of the water. Have you ever tried to use their> > 
> server browser? What a piece of crap.> >> > -----Original Message-----> > 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L 
> Havener> > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 12:07 AM> > To: Half-Life 
> dedicated Win32 server mailing list> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 
> 2/Dedicated Server update released> >> > There seems to be this trend in PC 
> gaming where developers want to > > control the game experience in online 
> play more and more. The most > > extreme case would be DICE and the ranked 
> servers for BF2 and 2142. > > More and more the options we as admins have to 
> host a game the way we > > want to play it are being taken away. In my 
> opinion, this has stemmed > > from the consoles where developers and 
> publishers have complete control > > over the gaming experience. That model 
> will never work in the PC gaming > > world. I am really frustrated with how 
> out of touch the devs and > > publishers have become. From this problem with 
> the custom tabs in TF2 > > to the complete and utter BS with KAOS and 
> Frontlines to the crappy > > console ports we get for a lot of games anymore 
> I just have to shake my > > head and wonder what the hell happened to PC 
> gaming.> >> > Rodge Stumbaugh wrote:> > > >> I have hosted a server for over 
> 4 years now and I only do it for my own> >> entertainment and sorry Valve, 
> but the best part of running(and playing> >> > > on)> > > >> a server is all 
> the cool mods these kids out there like Mani, Mattie, the> >> sourcemod folks 
> and now more than ever Beetlefart and of course others> >> > > have> > > >> 
> come up with. I'm not blind though, I do realize there are serious CAL> >> > 
> > type> > > >> gamers out there who only want vanilla servers, but I do 
> believe that> >> > > there> > > >> are more who like the fun stuff that's 
> been added on. Maybe I'm wrong,> >> > > maybe> > > >> Valve could care less 
> about these mods, but if so, why make a completely> >> different tab that 
> only shows up if you are already in the game? That part> >> really confuses 
> me because I run steam from windows, I decide what game to> >> play from my 
> steam client before I go into the game, even what server. So,> >> > > I> > > 
> >> rarely ever use the steam search while I'm in the game. So, why is it 
> that> >> Valve decided to put the tab there and not in the steam client I 
> use> >> > > before> > > >> I start the game??? That part I don't get at all. 
> But in all honestly, I> >> > > did> > > >> check out the new message from the 
> update tonight and it seems fine to me.> >> Do I think anyone will notice it? 
> I doubt it, will they use it? I hope> >> > > they> > > >> do. I do, however 
> agree with most people on this list that adding this> >> > > type> > > >> of 
> thing to the current filters would be much better, but then again, I> >> > > 
> make> > > >> no money from my server, so it doesn't affect me the same way.> 
> >>> >> Also, I'd like to say I am glad to have this list and am very 
> appreciative> >> of the few people from Valve who do send out updated info, 
> even though we> >> never hear from Alfred anymore!> >>> >> Just my two 
> cents,> >> Rodge from Maryland(aka Monkey House)> >>> >> -----Original 
> Message-----> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Jason Ruymen> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:52 PM> >> To: 
> [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> 
> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2/Dedicated Server update released> >>> >> The 
> required Team Fortress 2 update is now released. Please run> >> 
> hldsupdatetool to receive this update. The specific changes include:> >> > >> 
> - Added Custom Tab explanation dialog to be shown the first time the> >> 
> server browser is opened> >> - Changed Medigun Ubercharge meter to drain 
> faster for each target that> >> still has Ubercharge beyond your current 
> target. This means there is a> >> penalty for having multiple people being 
> Ubercharged at one time> >> - Fixed crouch-jump exploit that allowed players 
> to get outside of the> >> world> >> - Fixed bad characters in the chat string 
> when achievements are> >> announced in languages other than English> >> - 
> Fixed a few instances of truncated text in the menus and dialogs for> >> 
> languages other than English> >> - Fixed problem that was preventing some 
> dedicated servers from> >> uploading gamestats> >> - Fixed scoring bug during 
> Sudden Death when the map timelimit is> >> triggered> >> - Added the string 
> "(extra slot was added for SourceTV)" when maxplayers> >> is increased for 
> SourceTV> >>> >> Jason> >>> >>> >> 
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