Being VAC banned is not proven guilty? Use performance-enhancing drugs to cheat in sports and you might not be allowed to participate in any games or competitions for many years or never again at all in your life. This is because a person with a cheating mentality will cheat when given the opportunity. Cheating takes away the challenge in playing games and leaves only a will to win at the cost of fairness and fun.
Of course professional sports for medals, money and recognition and public network games for fun are very different, but if you used drugs to beat your friends in a just for fun football game then you will lose a lot of friends. But no one would do that. You might however cheat online if you got that mentality because it's easy to get away with and it's hard to get caught in the first place, so any step that makes getting caught cheating online having a bigger impact on the cheater and therefore making cheating online less attractive is a step in the right direction. It does not matter if you were teenager when you cheated, I was a teenager not too long ago and I never cheated or committed crimes that would hurt or affect another person negatively. A teenager's brain is not fully developed, but if you believe that a teenager cannot think straight enough to understand crime and punishment, right and wrong, choice and consequence then maybe teenagers should not be playing violent video games in which you kill other people the first place. But they do, and they can without going on killing sprees, so blaming your bad choices on being a teenager, now that is bullshit and it will not give you an online get out of jail free card. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Craig Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > innocent till proven guilty tbfh, if you cant be arsed to manage your > servers and ban cheaters as they join they you should be running servers. > > 2008/11/21 tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Well I am someone who happens to be VAC banned on the HL1 engine, on the >> same account I keep all my Source engine games no less. FYI, I have >> never used hacks, so if you're going to ban me from your dedicated >> servers (which I probably won't even notice or care) you should at least >> know your logic is bullshit. >> >> Tony Paloma wrote: >> > I'm definitely in favor. Banning people who cheated in other engines will >> > suffice in the mean time. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Wyatt >> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 3:04 PM >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Hacker >> > >> > That's not true, I actually can think of better deterrents but I don't >> > think most people would be in favor of jail time for cheaters. >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Dustin Wyatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> If you hack on one engine, you're likely to hack on another. Even if >> >> that wasn't true, I can't think of a better deterrent than thread of >> >> banning from all Valve games. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:30 PM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> That's a stupid idea. Hey, I'm vac banned on the HL1 engine, therefore >> I >> >>> must hack in every game I own, right? >> >>> >> >>> Donnie Newlove wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Well, his VAC status does not look good for him so its true that he is >> >>>> a cheater, but he has probably not been caught by VAC on the Source >> >>>> engine. >> >>>> >> >>>> This plugin still does not exist yet, but when it does it will change >> >>>> that, I'm looking forward to it. >> >>>> http://www.vacbanned.com/plugin.php >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Ben B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>> >> > wrote: >> > >> >>>>> So I wanted to play on my server, 18 poeple on it, filling up... so >> >>>>> >> > while I >> > >> >>>>> load, this hacker gets on with his aimbot/speed hack as sniper, and >> >>>>> basically makes most people quit, there are only 5 people remaining >> >>>>> >> > when I >> > >> >>>>> get in game. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> You have no Idea how enraged I was over this, I told him I was giving >> >>>>> >> > his ID >> > >> >>>>> to anyone I can find, so here I go. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> nicknames: Pitty: like 1000? lol, [COTB]austantacious >> >>>>> Steam Page: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997419331 >> >>>>> STEAM_ID: STEAM_0:1:18576801 >> >>>>> IP: 24.2.199.151 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Please ban this pile of crap from all your servers until vac gets him >> >>>>> >> > or >> > >> >>>>> something D:. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> From Ben B. 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