it is something really really simple to find out. there is a key to the 
servers that is publicly viewable to any 3rd party admin tool.

What really should be done is a check between a list in the steam 
community group and the servers. if a server has a steam group set it 
should check it against a server list in the steam community group and 
if it fails then reject the servers.  Shouldn't be to hard to put 
something like this in since there is already a connection between the 
game and steam community servers.

Didrole wrote:
> I messed up.
> It's :
> something you have to found by yourself - 103582791429521408  = the group
> id.
>
> Valve's group id is 4 ( http://steamcommunity.com/groups/Valve ).
> 2008/12/9 Neal Daringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>   
>> 103582791430075517 isn't this it?
>>
>> as in http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791430075517
>>
>> Tom Richardson wrote:
>>     
>>> /s/minutes/digits
>>>
>>> 2008/12/9 Tom Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Wow, that's a huge ID. The one for my own steam group is only about 5
>>>> minutes. Where did you find it, out of interest? I thought only the
>>>>         
>> group
>>     
>>>> owner could see it. Or is there some way of extracting it through the
>>>> console for a group linked server?
>>>>
>>>> 2008/12/9 Didrole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>>>> 103582791429521408 - something you have to found by yourself = the group
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> id.
>>>>> Difficult isn't it ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/12/9 Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/games/L4D
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> do you have a link to the official group?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DontWannaName! wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Is it just me or does anyone else see about 20 servers that say
>>>>>>>>                 
>> their
>>     
>>>>>> steam group is the L4D official group in the group servers list?
>>>>>>             
>> Because
>>     
>>>>> I
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> am pretty sure they are far from official. Somehow they got the
>>>>>>             
>> official
>>     
>>>>>> groups ID and are abusing it.
>>>>>>
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