I should point out, that (for the record) we don't run fake players anymore
as it really isn't an effective automatic way to grow a player base. Trust
me, anyone who is running fake players is only hurting themselves, and
nobody should be concerned. People who join an empty server make it a point
to ignore that server in the future.

If there is already a built-in player population, that's slightly
different.. But overall, I don't let the whole fake players issue concern
me. If you've got a fun server, you're going to be popular. End of story.

-Matt


On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Justin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agreed. but still stop the fakeplayers, its still just as wrong.
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:37 AM, f0rkz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Is this thread seriously still going.  *yawn* Let this thread die
> > already...
> >
> > On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Justin wrote:
> >
> > > I wasn't as enemies to mana back then so i didn't screenshot or
> > > anything,
> > > but i think i can contact setti for archived lists.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:18 AM, JHW (DogGunn) <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> And what evidence do you have to sustain that claim?
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Justin <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> they ran cracked before the fakeclients, and the same reason too.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:08 AM, JHW (DogGunn) <[email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> How do you get cracked servers out of fakeclients? Pretty sure
> > >>>> Lotus
> > >> clan
> > >>>> hasn't run cracked servers...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Alex <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> oh, ok sorry
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2009/2/5 Justin <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Had, not has.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Alex
> > >>>>>> <[email protected]>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> to be honest
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> the only way to make TF2 cracked is that cracked players have a
> > >>>> server
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> no cracked servers - no cracked players
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> so, if lotus has a cracked server, they suck
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2009/2/5 1nsane <[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Don't tell us what to do. But seeing how you are doing it
> > >> anyway,
> > >>> I
> > >>>>>> have
> > >>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>> suggestion:
> > >>>>>>>> Get off the list if you are running a cracked server. It's that
> > >>>>> simple.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Did I say fattie yet? If not then I have now. And you just used
> > >>>>>>>> dump_entity_sizes recently so it seems you haven't learned
> > >>> anything
> > >>>>>> yet.
> > >>>>>>>> Luckily I now have complete command logging which is pretty
> > >>>> awesome.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'd love to call you fattie some more but the poor people on
> > >> this
> > >>>>> list
> > >>>>>>>> might
> > >>>>>>>> not enjoy their inboxes being filled with offtopic crap.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Oh there's a 41 page thread on Steampowered talking about
> > >>>>> fakeclients.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=767078&page=41
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why don't you go bump that instead?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >> =
> > >> =
> > >> =====================================================================
> > >>>>>>>> Justin to Half-Life
> > >>>>>>>> You also have to realise that Lotus has no qualitys what so
> > >> EVER,
> > >>>> if
> > >>>>>> they
> > >>>>>>>> didnt use fakeplayers they would most likely fail just like my
> > >>>>> servers
> > >>>>>>> did
> > >>>>>>>> without the crack.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >> =
> > >> =
> > >> =====================================================================
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I see you are a fan of Lotus. Just like this "hacker":
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> http://forums.gamingterritory.com/index.php?showtopic=4864&st=0&start=0
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I recommend you join his group:
> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/lotussucks
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Infact why don't you make your own? The more the better! I'm
> > >>>> serious.
> > >>>>>>> It's
> > >>>>>>>> cool just do it.I LOVE fanclubs.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> And with this I'm done responding to you but just to be certain
> > >>>> that
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>> withhold myself from calling you a fattie... I shall now block
> > >>> your
> > >>>>>> email
> > >>>>>>>> email as well, fattie.
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