I've been on this list longer then most of you. Having Alfred here was a 
real treat, and there have been a few others that have come and gone over 
the years. But for the most part, we've been on our own.

I don't really blame them for shutting the list down. Valve has made some 
unpopular decisions lately, and we on this list have not hesitated to tell 
Valve how stupid we though they were for doing whatever they were doing. I 
think it started going downhill back about the time Valve decided to push 
Steam on us. There was a huge pushback, but Valve didn't care - they did it 
anyhow. Likewise for several other decisions they have made that have been 
less then popular with us. Steam seems to have worked out OK for the most 
part, but I can't say the same for other things they have done.

I guess it doesn't really matter anymore. I for one won't be joining the 
forums. I don't have the tolerance for their Nazi moderators, which is why I 
left the verc forums a long time ago. When this list goes away, I guess I'll 
be going away also.

Can I get out the Thwack! stick one last time, and this time use it on 
Valve?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cc2iscooL" <[email protected]>
To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists


It hasn't had them for a while anyway.

Ever since Alfred's been gone we never really get anything from actual Valve
employees.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected]> wrote:

> A mailing list without Valve employes is pointless.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[email protected]>
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>
>
> I found this list on google groups. Looks like someone went to the trouble
> of creating one.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hlds-unofficial-mailing-list
>
> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Kitteny Berk <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > ...
> > Bugger.
> >
> > Someone want to set up a new list, y'know, so we don't have to wade
> > through all the crap that seems to be on the forums?
> >
> > Alec Sanger wrote:
> > > https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819
> > >
> > > Please note the following (located at the bottom of the page)
> > >
> > > "The following lists have been discontinued as of February 20th, 2009:
> > > Click here for the archives of the Windows Dedicated Server Mailing
> > List.Click here for the archives of the Linux Dedicated Server Mailing
> > List.
> > >  For active discussion regarding Dedicated Servers, please visit the
> > forums."
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Alec Sanger
> > > P: 248.941.3813
> > > F: 313.286.8945
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: [email protected]
> > >> To: [email protected]
> > >> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 16:32:09 -0500
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
> > >>
> > >> I call shenanians
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Neil Voutt
> > >> http://www.neilvoutt.com
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On 9-Feb-09, at 4:24 PM, Evan Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Ditto, since that's really THE most useful thing about this list.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Mike Stiehm <[email protected]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> I would also like to know this
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Feb 9, 2009, at 3:02 PM, Alec Sanger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Well, Burton. What about receiving notification of updates? Please
> > >>>>> tell me we will still be able to receive these via email.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thank you,
> > >>>>> Alec Sanger
> > >>>>> P: 248.941.3813
> > >>>>> F: 313.286.8945
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
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