oops, replied to the wrong e-mail. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:50 AM, RideGuy <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:27 AM, f0rkz <[email protected]> wrote: >> How about we keep f7 out of this. This was an uncoordinated event not >> discussed with upper management. >> >> >> f0rkz >> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness >> >> >> On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Chris wrote: >> >>> So, I didn't know what clan msleeper was running but thought there >>> would be >>> loads of people complaining on his forums, and right enough in his >>> bans >>> section loads of people are complaining... First thread I saw this >>> reply >>> from one of his "TF2 Division" members: >>> >>> "Or just do it on another non F7 server like everyone else who farms >>> achievements does and don't fall for msleepers little trap next >>> time. " >>> >>> I think you should ban this guy msleeper, not only does he play on >>> your >>> server but he's one of your clan members in "TF2 Division" and he's >>> condones >>> and obviously is involved in the highly illicit practice of >>> farming, and >>> advising those who play on your servers to farm elsewhere! >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Blood Letter >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> This is not some noble cause that warrants beating your own drum in a >>>> one-man parade. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What you're doing is the equivalent of a child offering to share >>>> their >>>> toys with another child, then taking them away and yelling "NO! >>>> You're >>>> not allowed to play with my toys anymore! And my friends all hate >>>> you >>>> too! Hey everyone! Isn't this person stupid! Don't ever play with >>>> him because he's stupid!" >>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:16:35 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Achievement Farmer Honeypot >>>>> >>>>> I am not trying to win anything. Farming is a polarized topic, where >>>>> people feel agree it is wrong, or feel it is fine and isn't >>>>> against the >>>>> rules. Like all server communities, it is up to individual server >>>>> admins >>>>> to decide what they want to be allowed and not to be allowed. Am I >>>>> saying that every single admin or player out there needs to feel the >>>>> same way I do? Of course not. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not going to say that people need to feel the same way I feel >>>>> about >>>>> farming, either. It's not "off base" and it's not the way that you >>>>> feel, >>>>> so awesome. Don't run it, and enjoy farmers on your servers. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:54 -0600, CLAN RCR wrote: >>>>>> msleeper, you are entirely missing the principal people are using >>>>>> to >>>> judge >>>>>> your logic/decision to base your bans off of. >>>>>> >>>>>> Until you decide to at least consider the fact that you might >>>>>> possibly >>>> be >>>>>> off base, weather or not you wrote a plugin to do this or that is a >>>> moot >>>>>> point. The quality or usability of the plugin isn't what is >>>>>> behind the >>>>>> driving force to resist you, it is the logic that farming is >>>>>> somehow a >>>>>> banable offence that people are disagreeing with, and until you >>>> consider the >>>>>> other arguements logically you will never win the arguement. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Matt >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, msleeper <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey look I can crosspost to AlliedModders too. FYI my Karma is >>>>>>> back >>>> up >>>>>>> to where it was before, not like I care too much. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you're missing the point. Nobody is forcing you to use the >>>>>>> plugin, or enforce the banlist I have up. I am being called >>>>>>> self-righteous, but then being flamed and -Karma'd for something >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> nobody is being held at gun point to use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you don't like it, don't use it. 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