...

And when you release the patch to your current patch, roll back the 
minrate maxrate "tweak" that you implemented and supposedly fixed at 
a later date.
Servers still have "time warp" lag issue... patch that patch too please...
thank you

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>    5. Re: Harddrives which to choose (Michael Secord)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:18:38 -0700
>From: "Aaron Rapp" <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
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>Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these
>people from the list and implement moderators.
>
>It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would get
>from this list.
>
>Aaron Rapp
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected]
>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of f0rkz
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>
>Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
>out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
>quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
>should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
>around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
>I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
>
>On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
>
> > Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
> >> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
> >> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
> >>
> >> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
> >>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
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>Message: 2
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:21:08 +0100
>From: Patrick Shelley <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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>On this occassion im not drunk, but i find it sooo amusing to see you defend
>your boyfriend i almost cant stop.
>
>You didnt like it when i mocked him did you? But as he does it on a regular
>basis to other people i'll chime in and mock like he does to others.
>
>I think you need to get some perspective about being self centered, best off
>going to sleeper for that advice. The only selfishness im displaying here is
>a dis-courtesy to the others on the list by clogging them up with shite.
>
>I'll stop out of courtesy for the others, not because i dont want to spar
>with you all night.
>
>I wouldnt want to see you unsubscribe deary, or sleeper for that matter -
>after all, his contributions are as valuable as a chocolate tea pot.
>
>Go ahead, get the last word in - i'll let have that. Now is that being self
>centered?
>
>By the way, how does sleeper's ass taste these days?
>
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:23:20 -0400
>From: Alec Sanger <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Running LAN server with Steam IDs
>To: <[email protected]>
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>
>I doubt it's this easy, but what happens if you set sv_lan mid game 
>when people are already playing? Does it only take effect on a map restart?
>
>Thank you,
>Alec Sanger
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> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:16:23 -0400
> > Subject: [hlds] Running LAN server with Steam IDs
> >
> > Is there any way to trick a LAN server into connecting to Steam and
> > making it use actual Steam ID's in-game instead of the false LAN ID? Or
> > am I stuck using primitive methods of in-game administration in a LAN
> > setting. Thanks.
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>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:24:16 -0500
>From: Alex <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
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>I would agree with you Aaron. Ive thought many times about removing
>myself from the list as daily when i get home i see about 40 unread
>messages. 75% of which are pointless.
>
>Aaron Rapp wrote:
> > Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these
> > people from the list and implement moderators.
> >
> > It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would get
> > from this list.
> >
> > Aaron Rapp
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of f0rkz
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
> >
> > Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
> > out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
> > quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
> > should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
> > around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
> > I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
> >>> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
> >>> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
> >>>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:27:06 -0400
>From: Michael Secord <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
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>Aaron,
>
>While you have a good thought, that won't work....the list is controlled
>by email addresses...you could remove a person/email, but they could
>rejoin with a different one...making the initial removal pointless.
>People just need to grow up and actually act like adults...
>
>*shrugs* Just my $0.02.
>
>-Michael
>
>Aaron Rapp wrote:
> > Valve...It would be very nice for you to get involved here. Remove these
> > people from the list and implement moderators.
> >
> > It would do a huge amount of good to the quality of feedback you would get
> > from this list.
> >
> > Aaron Rapp
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of f0rkz
> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:10 PM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
> >
> > Oooor I can just sit here and see how long it takes for you to pull
> > out of your drunken stuper.  You were the one to start this and I am
> > quite the stubborn ass when it comes to pricks like you.  Maybe I
> > should just unsubscribe from this list since its you waving your dick
> > around at everyone that doesn't join your cool club.  Oh pllllease can
> > I become a self centered prick like you? Please?
> >
> > On Apr 30, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Well , when you unsubscribe, can you take sleeper with you too?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:59 PM, f0rkz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Seeing as all you do is sit on here and bitch, yeah I am the real
> >>> girl.  I don't even know why I subscribe to the Win32 lists seems
> >>> nothing but bullshit flying around.  Mostly from your mouth.
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Shelley wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, im sorry F0rkz, your a decent girl and i dont wanna hurt your
> >>>> feelings. You and sleeper make a great couple.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
> >>>> archives, please visit:
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> >>>>
> >>> f0rkz
> >>> f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness
> >>>
> >>>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:30:19 -0500
>From: Cc2iscooL <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>         <[email protected]>
>Message-ID:
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>
>This is why we still can't have nice things.
>
>I almost wish Valve would go to a forum now so I wouldn't have to read all
>this crap in my inbox. People wonder why they were even considering it. I'd
>rather deal with the slowness of the forums than deal with this crap.
>
>Valve, can we get some administration here and terminate some failures from
>our (once) nice mailing list?
>
>Thanks!
>
>On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Patrick Shelley <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > On this occassion im not drunk, but i find it sooo amusing to see you
> > defend
> > your boyfriend i almost cant stop.
> >
> > You didnt like it when i mocked him did you? But as he does it on a regular
> > basis to other people i'll chime in and mock like he does to others.
> >
> > I think you need to get some perspective about being self centered, best
> > off
> > going to sleeper for that advice. The only selfishness im displaying here
> > is
> > a dis-courtesy to the others on the list by clogging them up with shite.
> >
> > I'll stop out of courtesy for the others, not because i dont want to spar
> > with you all night.
> >
> > I wouldnt want to see you unsubscribe deary, or sleeper for that matter -
> > after all, his contributions are as valuable as a chocolate tea pot.
> >
> > Go ahead, get the last word in - i'll let have that. Now is that being self
> > centered?
> >
> > By the way, how does sleeper's ass taste these days?
> > _______________________________________________
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> > please visit:
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>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 7
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:35:38 -0500
>From: Cc2iscooL <[email protected]>
>Subject: [hlds] TF2 Client Crashing on Startup
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>         <[email protected]>
>Message-ID:
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>I got some stealth update a second ago for TF2 and now clients can't start
>up their games.
>
>Fix!
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 8
>Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 15:36:37 -0700
>From: Octo <[email protected]>
>Subject: [hlds] April 30th Client Update Crash
>To: [email protected]
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>I just saw a steam message that said a Team Fortress 2 Update had 
>been downloaded,
>now when I start the client I get:
>
>Team Fortress 2:hl2.exe - Application Error
>
>The exception Privileged instruction, (0xc0000096) occured in the 
>application at location 0x00010100.
>
>Click on OK to terminate the program
>
>
>
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