To Mart-Jan; My personal opinion coming from someone who does buy his games 
off store shelves; And only play single player campaign games,just to avoid the 
multi-player hack’s dirty shit; I could really care less what they do when 
Fed’s finally get involved in catching the bastard’s here’s why; In the past 5 
year’s over 100 software companies have gone out of business or filed 
bankruptsy, as a result of the little prick’s.They attack the custumer’s 
I.P.Address certificates is what there doing. I think but am not for shure 
corporate espionage,fraud,identity theft linked with malitious hacking caries a 
minimum sentence of 30 year’s in a Federal or State prison!.... 
Sincerely,...Shardstride; One & only!....P.S!...Forward This...

From: Mart-Jan Reeuwijk 
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 4:05 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser

Lets hope valve delists them from the MB. Its sad already that those servers 
"pollute" the server list for honest players. 

To be fair, I wouldn't mind any form of registration by server owners for their 
servers. I know that in the past a steam client was needed, and somewhere it 
was dropped as a requirement. Wouldn't go as far as re-introducing that, but 
maybe simular to the matchmaking requirements? Or some other system to keep the 
rogue ones out. There where some replies in the past that some would be 
addressed, dunno if that is already done. I'd welcome extra measures to it, 
even if we as server owners have to do some extra for it.


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  From: Eli Witt <[email protected]>
  To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
<[email protected]>
  Sent: Friday, 30 September 2011, 12:35
  Subject: Re: [hlds] Servers are absent in Server Browser


  Imagine that, the master server for people who bought the game will not 
display servers made that allow people who didn't pay for the game to play. 


  Get out of the list already, everyone already dislikes you now.




  On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:

    We support non-cracked servers. 

    Why?

    Because cracked servers typically have issues like this that are completely 
unrelated to any issue with the proper build. 



    On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Dmitriy Bobrovskiy <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      Ook>> Is he running cracked servers? How can you tell? And what exactly 
is a "cracked" server?
      mauirixxx> It allows players who didn’t buy the game play the multiplayer 
aspect of said game.
      Saul Rennison> Server-side Steam authentication is effectively disabled, 
so players who do not legally own the game with Steam can play.
      I agree. It’s fully correct definitions.

      AnAkIn> We don't support Non Steam servers on this list.
      First of all I hate this situation. Most of admins have to run so-called 
cracked servers in order to have players on them. I have legal copy of the game 
'Half-Life'. I done simple research during an hour: I opened server browser, 
connected to various servers and then pressed Shift+TAB to open Steam Community 
in-game. After that I navigated to Players->Current game and saw 'No Steam 
users reported by game server' every time! Tell me where I can find Steam 
servers? I don't know they all is cracked in Steam Server Browser list.

      If you don't support Non Steam servers who do you support then?
      And who 'we'?

      --
      Ook> Ignore the list nazis...it looks to me that these are all HL DM 
servers, at least
      Ook> the ones on the steam server browser. And the last I checked, this 
was the
      Ook> HLDS list....
      Ook>
      Ook> right now I see DM3 and TDM2, TDM3, TDM4. I can see DM2 with HLSW, 
but
      Ook> it does not appear in steam server browser and yet there are 20 
players on it.
      Ook>
      Ook> I don't have a solution, but this happens to me all the time. I have 
two
      Ook> OP4 servers and on HL server, on the same IP, different ports, and 
they
      Ook> seem to pop on and off of the steam server browser at random - and 
it's
      Ook> never the one on port 27015 - that one is always there, it is the 
others that
      Ook> come and go. And if you restart the server, it appears immediately 
on the list.
      Ook> For a while...
      Ook>
      Ook> I've given up trying to find an answer, I just ignore it...strange 
that the one on
      Ook> port 27015 is always there, where the others come and go.
      Thank you for answer! It's great help especially when there are no any 
info yet.
      Our servers don't appears on the list after restarting.
      I think the problem (poping on|off and absence) has two common reasons: 
ether servers get banned after some time (because cracked?) or servers don't 
meet list requirements for some reason. And I do want find out why.



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