Its about the hidden motd, pinion uses this feature to probably remove ads after the client has viewed it. We use that feature to set a url to allow clients to tune in to streaming radio and other things... I dont think this should be removed. Pinion should fix their bloody hit system. Its been failing a lot lately.
On 29 March 2013 22:13, List User <[email protected]> wrote: > Wasn't Pinion claiming VALVe is working with them? If so, why would a > VAVLe employee say that they are going to drop the MOTD feature. Doesn't > make sense. > > > > On 3/29/2013 6:10 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: > > I agree with Paul. Pinion needs to be changed if someone cheats their > system like this. > > On 29 March 2013 21:52, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > >> If this is all true, Pinion could solve their problems by doing more with >> JavaScript and possibly Flash to verify if a user is actually viewing the >> ad. One great example is using JavaScript's onmousemove event. Everyone >> shouldn't be restricted/punished with a rumored MOTD change just because of >> Pinion's ad security being flawed (supposedly). That's not our or Valve's >> problem, that's their problem and there are ways for them to fix it if >> Pinion have half decent developers on their team. >> >> >> On 29 March 2013 21:45, ics <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It's another kick in the face for some if MOTD is being removed. >>> Instead, it should be re-invented. However about no one reads motd unless >>> they have to. >>> >>> Some mods need it badly, some don't. Personally i would settle for >>> something like L4D series have, a banner and some text about the server & >>> community. There was talk back then to add a button similiar like L4D2 has >>> to allow people directly to join to the steamcommunity that the server has >>> on it's configs. That never came to pass and it has been 2+ years. >>> >>> I could care less about Pinion but it seems to be the main cause for >>> things like this to happen. Dammit. >>> >>> -ics >>> >>> Doctor McKay kirjoitti: >>> >>>> Rumor that Valve is considering removing the MOTD entirely. < >>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=1922141#post1922141> >>>> >>>> Because of this, I decided to compile a list < >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/14GFAlNwhtuoNq4XKqSFvPuAA7iZYmcztQiRT85FjTzU/edit?usp=sharing> >>>> of plugins that would entirely or partially break if this change was made. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Doctor McKay >>>> http://www.doctormckay.com >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM, 1nsane <[email protected] <mailto: >>>> [email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Where did you hear this "rumor" from? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Paul <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Disabling window.open(...)'s JavaScript function wouldn't >>>> effect pop-up screens, however if the rumor that I've heard is >>>> true then that would indeed be bad for such plugins, and could >>>> see the community shrink on TF2 as a result. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 29 March 2013 16:42, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm, pop-up screens for plugins like !bp and many others >>>> are done by users, but its the server's plugin that pops >>>> the requested webpage to the client. I'd hate to see such >>>> go, unless some can be worked out with the steam overlay >>>> browser, but that would cause a lot of abuse is my guess. >>>> (servers loading up a huge site in there without the >>>> player aware etc). >>>> >>>> If it would be in the form of temporary "links" (bookmark) >>>> in the bar on top of the overlay browser, that those only >>>> get opened when the client clicks on them, that would end >>>> any form of abuse. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Paul <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>> <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 29 March 2013, 10:15 >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query regarding >>>> MOTD >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi guys, >>>> Yes I understand what you're saying. That isn't what I >>>> mean though. I've heard rumors (yes, on a forum, not >>>> exactly a reliable source I know) that there are plans >>>> in the works to make a massive change to the MOTD so >>>> that it can't be used by server plugins mid-game, and >>>> that it will only be usable at the beginning (when you >>>> connect), presumably due to rare problems such as what >>>> I mentioned occurring on certain servers. I'm guessing >>>> the rumors aren't true, but even so I was suggesting >>>> that it if the rumors are true that instead of doing >>>> that you could fix the problem by disabling the >>>> functionality of JavaScript's window.open(...), >>>> alert(...) and confirm(...) functions. Disabling those >>>> three functions would prevent any webpages that are >>>> loaded in the MOTD from either making an additional >>>> popup window, or temporarily losing mouse focus in the >>>> game to an alert/confirm box. Hopefully I've made >>>> myself a little clearer now, I didn't mean Java, I do >>>> mean JavaScript. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> Paul. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view >>>> the list archives, please visit: >>>> >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >>>> list archives, please visit: >>>> >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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