My message was to confirm that "crapton warden" was sending such messages to 
list members. After which he edited the picture in response.  

Also, I see a number of new names here that I suspect are just other email 
addresses of the same troll. So just quit for a while till Valve does a clean 
up.




>________________________________
> From: Paul <[email protected]>
>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
><[email protected]> 
>Sent: Monday, 1 April 2013, 14:45
>Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
> 
>
>I offered the opportunity to keep the mailing list from further griefing, you 
>seem to wish for this to continue that's of course your choice. I guess the 
>phrase is correct, "never argue with an idiot or they'll bring you down to 
>their level and beat you with experience". I agree, now you mention it, that 
>the first original image could've also been faked, so either story may not be 
>correct. Either way, it seems certain people on here now have a massive hate 
>towards me even though I did not start this, so to end this I'm just going to 
>stick to the forums, and ignore all further replies on here other than those 
>from Valve employees. Good luck everyone and long live your battle with each 
>other. Lastly, I don't see where your proof is about your claim of me being 
>upset about the Pinion issue, I couldn't care about Pinion, it's more what 
>they may have done with the MOTD if that information had been true.
>
>
>
>On 1 April 2013 13:05, Steve Gonzolos <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>> I just looked at both and either one can be a fake. when I look at the tone 
>>of the messages from the person you claim to  genuine poster 
>>[email protected] or mart-jan reeuwiik it seems like he was the person 
>>making the false claim and creating the vial spoof and starting the argument. 
>>coupling that with the fact that you want to make this a private conversation 
>>should make anyone with common sense see who is lying or at least trying to 
>>hide the truth. you also seem to be upset that mr.wardon has shed lite on 
>>that pinion issue. shame on you.
>> 
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>From: [email protected]
>>Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 12:53:25 +0100
>>To: [email protected]
>>
>>Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>>
>>
>>If you look on the other thread '[hlds] Suggestion and query regarding MOTD' 
>>on this mailing list you'll find that he claimed someone sent him a rude 
>>reply via email, when he originally sent one to a genuine poster there. He 
>>copied the screenshot that the genuine poster took, didn't bother to change 
>>the date/time of the message and simply added his own message, whilst 
>>resizing the email text as it was too big for the box.
>>
>>
>>Original message the genuine poster received from Mr.Wardon: 
>>http://imgur.com/NzIvh9D
>>Mr.Wardon's received a message from the genuine poster (compare the 
>>screenshots closely): http://imgur.com/JY1ndz9
>>
>>
>>It's on the other thread, about 23 hours or so from the date/time of posting 
>>this message. So Viktor, before you make accusations about me, I advise you 
>>read messages posted here :). Many thanks. If you want, further 
>>communications regarding this matter can be emailed directly to me, so as to 
>>avoid further off-topic discussion on the mailing list.
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1 April 2013 12:46, Viktor Anely <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>what proof do you have? you say he has falsified information hows that? it 
>>seems to me like you want to lie about him because he informed us about you, 
>>that's kinda weak. anyway it doesn't matter you on that list of people to 
>>block so you being blocked. I just wanted to point out that making false 
>>accusations seems to be what you do.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>Paul ([email protected])
>>>Schedule cleanup
>>>6:27 AM Groups
>>>To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>From: [email protected] on behalf of Paul 
>>>([email protected]) This sender is in your safe list. 
>>>Sent: Mon 4/01/13 6:27 AM 
>>>To:  Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
>>>([email protected]) 
>>>Agreed. Furthermore for me to be accused of spam without actual proof is 
>>>quite pathetic Mr.Wardon, you've shown yourself up to falsify information 
>>>and/or evidence and initiate invalid arguments between users here, your 
>>>reputation here leaves much to be desired on this mailing list. I think I'm 
>>>going to follow Derek's move, by filtering, as it seems that this list isn't 
>>>maintained from keeping spammers out as much as the forum is.
>>>
>>>
>>>Anyway on topic, SRCDS can handle 32 players but with some possible change 
>>>in the performance, stability and the resource consumption. In Team Fortress 
>>>2 it's advised to use a maximum of 24 players, but there's no harm in having 
>>>more than 24 should you wish to do so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 1 April 2013 08:46, Viktor Anely <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for the list of asshats and the heads up on the spammer. Maybe Valve 
>>>will deal with that list and clean up the riff raff trolling around here.
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>From: [email protected]
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 02:42:26 -0500
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Obviously that was a spoofed email.
>>>> 
>>>>Ahh the joys of mailing list trolls. So apparently Dr.McKay has been 
>>>>spoofing again. His ip address (137.118.16.55) has been tagged as known 
>>>>spam provider by spamhaus and his isp ( Neonova Network Services) has been 
>>>>notified of his illicit activities. Enjoy finding another isp.
>>>> 
>>>>Furthermore he has been unsubscribing people from this mailing list. I 
>>>>would hope that's a ban-able offence.
>>>> 
>>>>Someone that would do that makes one wonder about what other little 
>>>>activities they would be upto... hmm SourceMod stealing steam accounts 
>>>>maybe? Obviously something he has attempted by his statements about using 
>>>>the steam popup to alter steam group memberships.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>From: [email protected]
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 08:13:19 +0200
>>>>Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I would like to say that i am sorry for being such a dumbass and 
>>>>misinforming, aswell as troll and a guy that flames for fun. I should 
>>>>probably keep my crap off this mailing list. 
>>>>With love.
>>>>--------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 23:51:34 -0500
>>>>> From: Crapware Wardon <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 Slot Server
>>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>> 
>>>>> In response to... Harsh Baid ([email protected]) Hi Harsh,     As you 
>>>>> can see
>>>>> from the previous response posts from the kids on this mailing list, they 
>>>>> follow
>>>>> the "If you cant dazzle them with footwork baffle them with bullshit" 
>>>>> rule. 
>>>>> Of course you will see a performance hit with more players, however it 
>>>>> will be
>>>>> hardware and network resource dependent as to whether it is noticeable to 
>>>>> you and
>>>>> your players. There are many other factors as well, such as the video and 
>>>>> network
>>>>> hardware of your clients. I think you will find that it will be 
>>>>> impossible to keep
>>>>> everybody happy all of the time. Furthermore running an administration 
>>>>> add-on such
>>>>> as SourceMod (especially this one due to pore/no coding standards) on 
>>>>> your server
>>>>> will degrade your users experience even further.     All that being said 
>>>>> you should
>>>>> use trial and error to determine what works best for you and your users. 
>>>>> You can
>>>>> then select the best balance of options for your hosting goals.    If you 
>>>>> are new
>>>>> around here I would also suggest you add email filters for the following 
>>>>> badmin/trolls
>>>>> as they are known misinformation and spam providers: Doctor McKay 
>>>>> ([email protected])Dominik
>>>>> Friedrichs ([email protected])Cameron Munroe 
>>>>> ([email protected])List User ([email protected])Lyrai
>>>>> ([email protected])fiveofeight ([email protected])Mart-Jan Reeuwijk 
>>>>> ([email protected])Brian
>>>>> Simon ([email protected])Eli Witt ([email protected])Paul 
>>>>> ([email protected])Bjorn
>>>>> Wielens ([email protected])1nsane ([email protected])T Marler 
>>>>> ([email protected])Niko
>>>>> Storni ([email protected])Russell Smith 
>>>>> ([email protected])Cc2iscooL
>>>>> ([email protected])Asher Baker ([email protected])IBIS Customer 
>>>>> Service ([email protected])ics
>>>>> ([email protected])ElitePowered ([email protected])The Supreme 
>>>>> Commander ([email protected])Nomaan
>>>>> Ahmad ([email protected])Derek Howard 
>>>>> ([email protected])Wander ([email protected])Mike
>>>>> Vail ([email protected])[email protected] [email protected] 
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] 
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> [email protected] [email protected] I know this list is extensive, but 
>>>>> I prefer
>>>>> to be comprehensive as opposed to the misinformation provides. Good Luck. 
>>>>
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