The potential is there, though I think everyone should gander at this. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Valve-Corporation-RVW6058997.htm
This is a very daunting look at the internals of Valve's company. There are quite a lot of them actually. http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Valve-Corporation-Reviews-E24849.htm I've been saying this here and there for a long time now, but I'm hoping more people seem to pick up on this. Valve is in a spot where their actions go moderately unpunished, where they are making more money than they need to while not returning any favors to anyone anymore. Sure we get things like refunds now that is great! But at the cost of what, well other games. The clause for DLC applies to their games, so all Valve titles are safe for the most part. I am not saying the cause here is gone or dead, but clearly we need to actually do something about it. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 12:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Send hlds mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of hlds digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Community Servers and the Gun Mettle Update (Paul) > 2. Re: Mandatory TF2 update coming (Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald) > 3. Re: Mandatory TF2 update coming (wickedplayer494) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 00:16:30 +0100 > From: Paul <[email protected]> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Community Servers and the Gun Mettle Update > Message-ID: > <CAPs_xLZW-CX9h6Xr= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Unfortunately Valve will probably just remain silent on this topic and just > wait for it to go quiet until the next time someone brings it up. Sadly it > does strongly seem they're doing subtle changes to the game which push it > more towards official servers and therefore killing community servers > little by little. After all, two years down the road and no official > comments to anyone's complaint here. I'm not sure what we can do to change > their mindset towards this, if anything. Obviously one of the major > elements of this game, creativity, will suffer when (not if) the day > arrives that there's hardly any community run servers online anymore. To > use a phrase from Star Trek, "we are Valve, your communities will be > assimilated and will adapt to serve us, resistance is futile" :P. Hehe. > > The modified screenshot earlier on, that's the best idea yet and should be > considered strongly by Valve! Come on, give us a sign that you still care > about the community that helped towards making the game what it is today! > > I'd like to be proven wrong however, this time. > > On 2 July 2015 at 23:56, Brandon Mulligan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Create a filter in gmail that dumps @list.valvesoftware.com to > archive... > > Problem solved. > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Crazed Gunman < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Oh, the maturity of this mailing list sometimes. I mention being unable > >> to unsubscribe from the mailing list, so someone kindly signs me up for > >> many, many more. Thanks. > >> On Jul 2, 2015 5:41 PM, "Robert Paulson" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> I've given up on this a while ago. > >>> > >>> When the 1 year mark passed with no concessions for communities except > >>> for quickpick that no one uses, it was safe to say that Valve doesn't > care > >>> about communities anymore. There is no sense of urgency as they let > >>> player-bases carefully built up over several years be irreversibly > >>> destroyed in a few months. > >>> > >>> We were just there to foot their hosting bill before they found out > they > >>> could make way more money by selling items. They have no sense of > shame for > >>> betraying the people that helped drive their profit margin up before > >>> switching to microtransactions. > >>> > >>> The owner of TN now works at Valve, and I believe John here was the > >>> owner of Nemu's stomping grounds (which has gone unpunished for years > for > >>> not labeling the bot "Brutus" as a bot in the browser). And we are > still > >>> getting even more anti-community features. Maybe now they see the > official > >>> servers as their own and the community ones as a threat to them now. > >>> > >>> The lesson here is clear and everyone should know: DO NOT invest your > >>> time and enthusiasm into anything related to Steam or Valve will screw > you > >>> like they did with TF2. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:42 PM, ics <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I have to agree also, getting scraps instead of the goodies. Why am i > >>>> paying for servers anymore when they get alienated by Valve policies? > >>>> > >>>> That image there is really the best solution i've seen so far. > >>>> > >>>> -ics > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> E. Olsen kirjoitti: > >>>> > >>>>> At this point, I have to agree with Alexander. > >>>>> > >>>>> I mean, cmon guys - in almost two years of "looking at alternatives" > >>>>> you've got nothing to announce when it comes to helping community > servers? > >>>>> There have been quite a few viable alternative presented, to include > this > >>>>> one: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://i.imgur.com/tAmWXj6.png > >>>>> > >>>>> I've really been a staunch defender of the TF2 team to this point, > but > >>>>> this is just kicking all the good communities that are left while > they're > >>>>> down. > >>>>> > >>>>> Honestly, by the time you guys make community support a priority > >>>>> again, it might be too late. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Alexander Corn < > [email protected] > >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The blow would be lessened if you would go ahead and set "any > >>>>> server" as the default for Quickplay instead of official servers > >>>>> only. That was supposed to be a "temporary", "nuclear solution" > >>>>> after all. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:22 PM, John Schoenick > >>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hey guys, with today's update we're introducing a few new > >>>>> features that will impact servers, and I just wanted to give > >>>>> you guys a heads up. > >>>>> > >>>>> There is a new quickplay category, featured, that represents > >>>>> the featured maps for a given campaign. In order to have your > >>>>> server in this category, you need to be running the mapcycle > >>>>> mapcycle_featured_maps.txt, and have the special string > >>>>> 'featured' in your quickplay tags. > >>>>> > >>>>> Today's update also introduces contracts, which currently > >>>>> require players be on official servers to complete. > >>>>> Unfortunately, our current setup makes it very difficult to > >>>>> restrict features like this other than in an all-or-nothing > >>>>> manner, and we determined this was necessary to protect the > >>>>> system from immediate abuse. > >>>>> > >>>>> We agree this is not ideal. We are continuing the look at the > >>>>> situation with community servers and how we can better > support > >>>>> passionate communities, but currently have nothing to > announce. > >>>>> > >>>>> - JohnS > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>> archives, please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/hlds/attachments/20150703/c7b4760c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 22:45:03 -0400 > From: "Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald" <[email protected]> > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update coming > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Anyone seeing crashes at round end? Happens even without any modifications > loaded. > > > > - Voogru. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Valentin Puscoi > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:09 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update coming > > > > Oh boy let the fun begin. I really hope you guys have prepared the item > servers....... > > > > 2015-07-02 23:58 GMT+03:00 Eric Smith <[email protected]>: > > We're working on releasing the Gun Mettle update ( > http://www.teamfortress.com/gunmettle/). We should have it ready soon. > > -Eric > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/hlds/attachments/20150702/c30c852f/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 23:01:40 -0500 > From: wickedplayer494 <[email protected]> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update coming > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > Were the players you saw crashing on OS X? Because that issue is > apparently still present. > > On 7/2/2015 9:45 PM, Spencer 'Voogru' MacDonald wrote: > > > > Anyone seeing crashes at round end? Happens even without any > > modifications loaded. > > > > - Voogru. > > > > *From:*[email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Valentin > > Puscoi > > *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:09 PM > > *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Mandatory TF2 update coming > > > > Oh boy let the fun begin. I really hope you guys have prepared the > > item servers....... > > > > 2015-07-02 23:58 GMT+03:00 Eric Smith <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > > > We're working on releasing the Gun Mettle update > > (http://www.teamfortress.com/gunmettle/). 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