You can safely deploy this fix to all steam servers as long as you also
rebuild all plugins loaded by the server.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Brian A. Stumm
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 3:36 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_apps] Re: [hlcoders] Engine interface changes
> 
> 
> Botman has not released updated source for HPB_bot but I use 
> a modified 
> version anyway. Is it safe to update his source to reflect 
> the eiface etc 
> changes for other mods ie TFC? Or will this cause other 
> problems? Will TFC 
> and other mods make use of the changes or not? If so what 
> kind of timeline 
> are we looking at? A few weeks or many moons? I did put your 
> metamod fix 
> on my TFC Server just now. Will monitor that but so far so 
> good. I do not 
> run adminmod though, don't imagine that matters but if it 
> does please say 
> so. 
> 
> PS- I don't distribute my modified botman code so backwards 
> compat is of 
> no importance to me. 
> 
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Alfred wrote:
> 
> > This new engine exists for all mods but currently only 
> crashes under CS
> > (because only CS uses the newly added functions).  It is possible it
> > could crash under other mods but this change has been 
> present since the
> > steam beta so I would be suprised if this was a problem.
> > All mods under steam share the same engine package, so whenever the
> > engine is updated in one all mods get it.
> > 
> > - Alfred
> > 
> > 
> > Brian A. Stumm wrote:
> > > On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>The recent Counter-Strike update on steam has exposed 
> some differences
> > >>between the current SDK engine interface and the one 
> currently used by
> > >>the engine.
> > >
> > >
> > > does this change affect all mods or just CS? I've had 
> some oddities on my
> > > tfc server today (metamod 1.17 + botmans bots) but not on 
> my dod server
> > > (no metamod + Sturmbots). Is this the same engine change 
> you mentioned
> > > earlier that was going to break bots, metamod, etc? If 
> not when can we
> > > expect that engine change to roll out. Be nice if you 
> would specify what
> > > mods are affected as you roll out the changes if its not 
> applicable to all
> > > mods. And it seems this last patch (11/26) and its engine 
> changes do not
> > > affect ALL mods.
> > >
> 
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