I think our best weapon is our voice.  Each time we hear of a vendor
offering a new card based on this chip, we flood them with emails stating
our objections to the wall hack option in the drivers.

If we keep the pressure on, maybe it will help.

StanTheMan
TheHardwareFreak
http://www.hardwarefreak.com
rcon admin at:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Copper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [hlds] FW: Response received (already) from SiS
> representative regardin g Xavier cheat drivers
>
>
> I also recived my response already. But if this coding is
> avalible to be
> used..  and the OEM manufactures have these alpha "media"
> Drivers. What is
> stopping the OEM's from including it in their driver
> releases?? And if they
> do is there anything Valve can do to combat this? or are we
> pretty much just
> bent over and done up?
>
> Copper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:47 AM
> Subject: [hlds] FW: Response received (already) from SiS
> representative
> regardin g Xavier cheat drivers
>
>
> > I received the following from Jessie Lee at SiS.
> > I'm glad to see fellow clean gamers have already hammered
> SiS on this.
> >
> > However...  This line gives me pause:
> >
> > "In fact, the See through function just only for media review."
> >
> > Why would they put this wall hack in the drivers just for
> "media review"?
> > WTF does that mean??  Does anyone else feel that we're
> being fed a line of
> > BS here?
> >
> > At least she does admit the purpose of it, and correctly
> calls it "the
> game
> > cheating utility."  I think we should keep an eye on this,
> as they might
> be
> > trying to pull a fast one....
> >
> > StanTheMan
> > TheHardwareFreak
> > http://www.hardwarefreak.com
> > rcon admin at:
> > Beer for Breakfast servers        <http://bfb.bogleg.org/>
> >    209.41.98.2:27016 (CS multi-map)   209.41.98.2:27015 (DoD)
> >    209.41.98.2:27017 (CS militia/dust2)            Dallas, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jessie Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:55 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Xabre AG400 product driver software complaint - please
> > forward to product group President
> >
> >
> > Hi Stan,
> >
> > In fact, the See through function just only for media
> review. The driver
> is
> > combined with the testing board for medias' evaluation
> only. We are taking
> > out the game cheating utility from Xabre driver after
> v3.04.01 which will
> be
> > released in next week. Currently we don't have any Xabre
> board customers
> > shipping products with that feature support.  Therefore,
> all of the driver
> > posted on Xabre.com never implemented the see through
> function inside.
> >
> > I know for the game users, you are not willing to see the
> see-through
> > support. I have received several same mails about the same
> content in
> these
> > days. Would you pls do me a help to clairify this concern?
> If you still
> have
> > any question, pls feel free to let me know.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion and best regards
> > __________________________
> >
> > Jessie Lee
> >  Corporate Marketing & Communications
> >  Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 5:07 PM
> > Subject: Xabre AG400 product driver software complaint -
> please forward to
> > product group President
> >
> >
> > > Dear SiS representatives,
> > >
> > > It has come to my attention that Silicon Integrated
> Systems, Inc, has
> > > included a "feature" in the software drivers for the
> Xabre AG400 product
> > > called "Eagle-Eye".  Eagle-Eye enables translucency of
> graphics textures
> > and
> > > stripping of textures from objects to create a wire-frame
> only display.
> > >
> > > This feature has only 1 use in the retail market:  To
> allow the retail
> > > customer to have an unfair advantage playing first person
> shooter (FPS)
> > type
> > > on-line games.  In other words, to CHEAT.
> > >
> > > This feature of your video drivers allows a player to see
> thru walls and
> > > objects in the game, thus giving the player an unfair
> advantage against
> > > his/her opponents.  Many people in the FPS gaming
> community, including
> the
> > > game developers themselves, have been required to
> dedicate an enormous
> > > amount of programming talent in an effort to combat
> cheating in on-line
> > FPS
> > > games, the most high profile being Half-Life Counter-Strike.
> > >
> > > Asus in the past released a video card product based on the nVidia
> > chipsets
> > > that included a similar feature to Eagle-Eye.  Asus lost
> many potential
> > > retail customers in the US market when it became well
> known that they
> > > offered this driver feature.  Honest gamers (such as
> myself) started a
> > grass
> > > roots movement to boycott their products, and we intend
> to do the same
> to
> > > SiS if this product ships with the Eagle-Eye feature.
> > >
> > > I hope that your company, which states:
> > >
> > > "Core Values:  Honesty, Integrity."
> > >
> > > will see that including this feature in your software
> drivers for this
> > > product violates your stated company core values.
> > >
> > > I, as an administrator of a Half-Life Counter-Strike
> public game server,
> > > formally request that you DO NOT make this feature of the drivers
> > available
> > > to the consumer.
> > >
> > > Please forward my comments to Chairman Dr. Eugene C.Y. Duh, and
> President
> > > Dr. S. Samuel Liu, as their email addresses are not
> listed on the SiS
> > > website.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > >
> > > Stan Hoeppner
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.hardwarefreak.com
> > > St. Louis, Missouri, USA
> > > rcon admin at:
> > > Beer for Breakfast servers        <http://bfb.bogleg.org/>
> > >    209.41.98.2:27016 (CS multi-map)   209.41.98.2:27015 (DoD)
> > >    209.41.98.2:27017 (CS militia/dust2)            Dallas, TX
> > >
> >
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