Thanks.  Good to know.
Then again, maybe the latest go-round of updates solved the problem and I
won't get banned anymore.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas J.
Stens�s
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Contact address regarding VAC (was: Re: [hlds_linux] New Security
Modules -February 25)


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On Wednesday 26 February 2003 06:50, HLDS List wrote:
> Ok, then who should I go crying to every time I get banned to let them
> know there was a false detection?  The "informational message" is
> anything but.

Well, let me put it this way.

Sitting on your hands never got anything solved.
If you dont let people know theres a problem, they wont think there is a
problem.

Unfortunately there are people on this list that is convinced security
trough obscurity works. There are also people on this list that thinks VAC
is flawless, perfect and incapable of making false detections.. even though
its proven to produce false detections on several occations in the past.

Until Valve at least puts up an official contact address dealing with VAC
bans, id simply recomend emailing the people who are dealing with it.

Eric Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Leon Hartwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

People have been asking for an official contact address on this list several
times in the past and been ignored, so that really doesnt leave you with
much choice. You can either pretend there is no problem and hope it goes
away, or contact the only people we know lurks on this list employed with
valve which wont speak up in public, which are also the only people we know
of that can possibly help.
- --
Yours Sincerely

Thomas Juberg Stens�s

- -- What we do in life echoes in eternity

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