Lol  Fix the CPU USE and everyone will be happy - just about.



Britt




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Brooking
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] the %n bug


On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 03:51, Steven Hartland wrote:
> Try reading the rest of the post before you reply. Including something

> that actually contributes to the discussion would be good and don't
> forget to make said comments within the context of this example where:
> 1. It was discovered.
> 2. It was patched. ( quickly )
>

Is the patch 100% right?

Have they missed something?

Is there any 'approach' the coder took, that could possibly lead to
other exploits?



Releasing the code does 2 things.

Allows valve to go over it and see if theres anything they have missed.

Makes people wake up to the fact they need keep there servers up to
date.

If you cannot keep your server up to date, I have no sympathy for you.
The number of times I have had to deal with a DoS/DDoS/DRDoS from
comprimissed boxes in the last 10 years, I cannot count. The reason for
the dos was NOT the fact source was released, its because people lack
the understand of what implications of having your 1 little box on the
net.


And even after having an entire network of linux boxes teardrop'd  I
would still rather the code be released than not.


> Our servers have been patched since the fix became available but you
> don't seem to be able to comprehend that others may not have and may
> not for some time. Hence, and I say again, releasing the code is
> reckless and irresponsible. Don't make it easy for them.

And what you seem to be to retarded to see is history.

OpenSSL, a non issue UNTIL someone released a working exploit, which
then turned up a couple more potential security issues.

ssh, a non issue UNTIL source code for rre was released.

apache, a non issue UNTIL source code for rre was released.

nestea, a non issue UNTIL source code for exploit was released.

teardrop, a non issue UNTIL someone ported it to windows.



I could go on for ages, arguing the point, but you seem to simple to
understand simple, history documented, facts.



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