Clearly blinded by some kind of AMD fanaticism. I like AMD, but at the end of the day Intel still make the better chips.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Couzens Sent: 22 September 2003 01:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Crazy Usage James, Are you being ignorant again? The P4 _IS_ a marketing chip, and every word Eric said is more or less accurate to a T. The Pentium 4 is a HORRIBLE design which gets higher megahertz with a massive performance. In benchmarking half-life dedicated server under linux on pentium III's and P4's I found a 1.6 Ghz P4 to be equivalent to a P3 866. How do you explain that. Its pretty obvious. Read any of the reviews even from sites like Anandtech or Tom's Hardware (who won't be as brutally honest as they should be). I paid almost $700 for a P4 3.06 chip, which is fortunately a mistake I will never make again. Its processing power is equivalent to that of an AMD Barton XP2600 for which I paid a fraction of the cost ($260 to be precise). http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1360&p=17 "In spite of the 12% lead the 1.5GHz Pentium 4 took in the Quake III Arena benchmarks, the 1.2GHz Athlon on the AMD 760 platform manages to take a 5% lead over the 1.5GHz P4. This is the perfect example of how the Pentium 4 needs a higher clock speed in order to distance itself from the competition. At clock speeds close to that of the Athlon, without any SSE2 specific optimizations, the Pentium 4 will almost always come out under the Athlon." http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1360&p=18 http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1360&p=19 "And for the home/office user, the Pentium 4 would actually be a downgrade in many cases. " Whats also interesting is how their PIII (I love the p3, it was a great chip) Tulatin outperformed their P4 chips even into the 2Ghz range... Intel as Eric indicated, was selling the retarded public with the p4. The box should say "One Testicle, Inside". And this one is just for you: http://prodigy.redphive.org/images/asr-drinks.jpg Cheers, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Sykes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Crazy Usage > Eric, > > Talking shit? However much I prefer P3's for a server platform - there's > no denying P4s performance. P4 a crappy design? I don't think so. > You're not a CPU architect are you? > I await your lovely thought out reply - where you attempt to prove your > point with information you read on GREATWEBSITE.COM.(powered by AMD of > course) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric > (Deacon) > Sent: 21 September 2003 17:29 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Crazy Usage > > James Sykes wrote: > > To sum up the total average CPU usage. > > The P4 was using : 1008Mhz > > The p3 was using : 576Mhz > > > > I also joined the servers to see the performance ingame - both were > > about equal.So we've got quite a large usage difference of 432Mhz! > > > > Anyone care to shed some light? > > The P4 is a marketing chip. It's not actually meant to give good > performance. Instead, it's meant to sound good to ignorant end-users. > Intel takes advantage of them by giving them a crappy design, but with > really high clock speeds, and then forces major manufacturers like Dell > to use nothing else. And if you want "good performance", you pay out > the nose for the highest-end CPU, the latest in inefficient design. > > -- > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
