WTF ????? Are you saying that these CPU usage issues are just linux and not across the board, now I am pissed off, isn't linux supposed to be the shit, the good secure one thats fast as hell. So windows goes unaffected while linux is stuck in the shithole ? Great job valve ! I switched over to linux for many reasons, I wanted to learn, I wanted the auto restart script, and I just liked the fact that it had cron, and text mode so not to waste memory like windoze, and now I find out windoze is better, wow this really pisses me off, moving to windows 2k3 will take away this cpu usage issue ? ( i have a chinese copy lying around here somewhere)
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Valve's Response to CPU Usage Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 00:15:35 -0500
>Its not kernel specific. The current hlds just creates excessive load and >use alot of cpu. Once we figure out what to do about that, things will be >much better. It is a game, it should run well on default kernel out of the >box. Hell, Im doing kernels just looking for which one gives me the peak >performance without lag just to run 60 player slots on a dual xeon 2.2ghz >box. 3x20 shouldn't even make that machine sweat. It wouldn't be a problem >if I wanted to give 20 player cs server a whole 2.2 xeon just to run on. >Thats just not realistic.
I'm so with you on this one. Unfortunately I don't think valve realizes how much of an issue there is. I have seen them state that they do not get the same high cpu loads as everyone complains about. Then they say they think it is an Intel only issue. I'm here to say the cpu issue is a real one and makes it impossible to run CS servers for a living. And it DEFINITELY is NOT an Intel only issue. Intel may be worse then AMD but my god even the AMD binaries are worthless. They have known about these issues for many, many months starting with the 3.1.1.1 binaries and still nothing has been done. I am really starting to think they are unable to fix the issue. It's as if there is a fundamental flaw in the core programming that keeps getting worse and worse as more code is added. I hate to say it but 1.6 is the death of the hlds linux binaries for most all hosts if these issues are not resolved. Because right now we have a choice between crappy in game servers or overloaded servers (which means crappy also).
We are thoroughly investigating switching over to win2k3. It seems secure enough. If it wasn't for it's $600 per machine price tag we would have already switched. Profit margins are low enough without having to pay for the OS to.
Jeremy
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