In response to your comment about 12000 Ciscos being unreliable...IMHO, that
is crazy...They are only unreliable if the admin doesn't know how to manage
them efficiently.  And I agree with you on the Junipers...Those are very
nice.  Just a matter of what you want in your network.  But the Ciscos,
IMHO, are very reliable when administered correctly.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nelson Marques
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 1:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Loss/Choke in FreeBSD servers

For as much as I can say, Catalysts are a rather obnoxious choice. Try the
Baystack Series from Nortel.
As for high performance routers, dropped the unreliable Cisco's 7100/12000
and started investing in Juniper's, now, those really rock!

nmarques

Andy Shinn wrote:

> Right now there are 2 hlds servers on the machine. During time of
> testing both were empty. And even with both full. The loss/choke still
> seem to be about the same (around 1-6).
>
> The switch is a Cisco 2900 series. Not sure exact model, it's a
> special layer 3 model.
>
> The network card is an integrated intel card. Not sure which model.
> Come with the Supermicro 6013a-t chassis.
>
> Marcos Dias wrote:
>
>> How many servers are there on each machine ?
>> bandwidth ?
>>
>> What kind of switch are you using ?
>>
>> What network card are you using ?
>>
>> []'s
>>
>> Marcos Dias
>> www.netrangers.com.br
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Loss/Choke in FreeBSD servers
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Andy Shinn wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wondering if any FreeBSD HLDS users can help me out.
>>>>
>>>> First of all. I'm wondering if FreeBSD was a good choice for HLDS
>>>> servers. I mainly went with FreeBSD because all my other machines
>>>> run FreeBSD and HLDS does seem to run well on it. Recently I built
>>>> a new machine (dual 2.8ghz xeon, 1gb ram) to run some more game
>>>> servers on. I get about 1-4 loss on them at any time, rarely going
>>>> to 0. I have set the kern.hz="1000", tried changing rates and such.
>>>> No luck.
>>>>
>>>> CPU usage was never over 30% and other HLDS servers on the same
>>>> switch on the net have 0 loss all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Wondering if there are any other tweaks I should look at or
>>>> something else to monitor.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise I'm very happy with the FreeBSD performance in HLDS.
>>>> Though I
>>>> can't even feel the 1 - 4 loss it bothers me that it is there =\
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I use FreeBSD and HLDS. And I am seeing losses too, but only 1-4
>>> every 3-10 minutes. The server spec are simular, dual xeon 2.4 GHz,
>>> HT enabled,
>>> 1 gig ram. I never thought it could be due to freebsd, perhaps you
>>> are right, perhaps you are wrong. I always thought it was the
>>> network, and when i upgraded the IOS on the switches a lot of the
>>> problems I hade before disappeared. The choke I am seeing is only at
>>> a restart of a map, when everyone buys...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Next on my list of things to try was to disable HT. I have read
>>>> that HT doesn't help and can actually be worse since HLDS isn't
>>>> multi threaded.
>>>> Is this true?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I could not see why it will run better with HT disabled. FreeBSD
>>> sees them as 4 seperate CPU's. Perhaps there is some overhead that
>>> causes them to perform slightly more poorly. The benefit is that
>>> when it spins off and uses 99% of cpu it will not affect the other
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> /Bjorn
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> I wish my girlfriend understood ...
>>>
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