I fully understand the meaning of beta test, but what use is a beta test without a decent amount of data, feedback and updates.
There has been a massive drop in the number of players on all "beta" servers and the biggest question I see in logs is maps, I asked the question Alfred was kind enough to reply. I am resigned like many to a long wait for both HL2 and CSS and have been for many years already. I was just expressing my concern at the lack of players we were seeing and therefore the lack of feedback we can offer. If valve really needs this "beta" testing then we need to see more regular fixes and or something to keep the interest of players. Because without players this beta test is useless, I can’t force people to play on the servers and without players on servers there is little we can test outside of the server working on our hardware setups. As you said people get bored and just want to play but there are some of us that want to help however without controlled servers from valve we all have to do our own beta testing this thin's out the real testers and you can’t test fully playing alone. Maybe the next stage is to release this to whole CS community at least then we would have a much higher number of players for servers. I don’t care if I host 5 servers, 200 servers or none what I do care about is that I do my best to help and give as much feedback as possible I am happy to offer all the feed back from an empty server but I am sure this is of little help to valve, this is why I am thinning down my servers as the numbers of players fall unlike others who are just using them to advertise. I should have really thrown a smiley on the end of the comment about the release as it was a tongue in cheek comment. Mark -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Gibke Sent: 28 September 2004 12:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS:S Maps >> Alfred, We are getting less and less players on our servers by the day, we used to run 8 servers now we run 4 and may lose 2 of these by the end of the week as they are not getting used. Can we expect a release shortly ? Mark << I don't think that you understand the concept of "beta test" - you are looking for a full-blown release. That is not the case. A beta is a semi-controlled environment to keep as much constant as possible to weed out bugs before a full release. There IS a reason for only one map. Beta testing requires a dedicated set of players to help find and report bugs and provide feedback to the developers. It is NOT to fill servers. I see a lot of empty CS:S servers now because all the players just want to play, not help test. Once the novelty wears off - they go back to their self-centered gaming needs. I suggest that you wait for the full release before you worry about hosting x number of CS:S servers. ......Chuck, just my opinion http://www.TexasArlingtonCS.us (sorry, all down due to hard drive failure) 8^( _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.768 / Virus Database: 515 - Release Date: 22/09/2004 _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
