I too would be willing to pay a nominal fee for the guarantee of VAC being
updated regularly and a cheater free server.

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I would pay ~1$ per month (ok, I'm german, I would pay 1 euro! :D)
if there is a garantee that valve is updating VAC daily! It should not
be possible to get a running cheat for longer than xx hours.

Maybe they invent the cheater-free dedicated server with a small
license of ~2-5$ a month. I would pay for.

But in future I will not buy a game without cheatprotection! Punkbuster
is going the right way with guid and hardware id ;) (with the hardware ID
ban valve will no longer gain extra cash from cheaters ^^)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 21.10.04 11:17:30:
>
> heh, it's not like they need to buy anything to get a new steamid :|
>
> VALVe have done a fair bit for us, at least they haven't turned into a
> MMORPG style forced pay-per-month after you buy the game initially
> (whoever came up with that idea was mentally dull - I mean, what if you
> don't -want- the 'free' expansion packs that come with them :p).
>
> Yar, so anyway, they don't have anything to gain by keeping VAC updated
> other then a bit of respect atm, since the vac disabler + non-steam
> pretty much put the idea of paying money for a new key after cheating
> out of the situation.
>
> - Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >They don't gain money from that old game? Come on... 10 bucks to be payed
by
> >a cheater who was catched by VAC. There are enough outside I think.
Players
> >changing their steam IDs due to a VAC catch, only to be able to play ESL
and so on...
> >Valve gained a lot of money in selling CZ. More money they gained after
they published
> >that CS:S beta will only be able to CZ users... (and more bought CZ).
> >
> >Valve still has a responsibility to the community. For me I can say, that
CS:S is not
> >my multiplayer future. Just in time I'm playing more and more bfv and et
;)
> >
> >We've currently changed our 3 public servers from VAC to CD (optional w/
mediator)
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 21.10.04 10:27:21:
> >
> >
> >>meh, the problem is that stupid vac disabler which makes VAC useless.
> >>If that were eliminated it'd probably be a whole lot more useful - at
> >>the moment enabling VAC on your servers is the same as not when it comes
> >>to an "informed" cheater.
> >>
> >>They don't gain money out of keeping up anti-cheat protection on a seven
> >>year old game though :/
> >>
> >>- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Matt Judge wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Daniel wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It isnt if its worked on moron...
> >>>>
> >>>>Daniel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>LOL, gotta love the mentally retarded trolls.  That sentence held zero
> >>>content of useful information.
> >>>
> >>>But that is the problem, it is not updated as frequently as the
> >>>alternative 3rd party software.  We have had VAC for a couple of years
> >>>now and it has had only one period of maybe 2 months where it was
> >>>updated on a regular basis.  From past experience, there is nothing to
> >>>show that this is going to change any time soon.
> >>>
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