Have y'all considered stepping out of your sandbox into the real world? Christ, how old are these people? They sound like a bunch of fucking middle schoolers whining about how their daddy didn't buy them the new Boy Band CD, except that they're equally full of shit as to the reasons why.
Where the hell do y'all get shit like "Valve are down at the beach"? Have you seen them there yourself? Do you have a report of it? Is it just random projections of your own frustrations and ignorant view of "Corporate America" being hurled at Valve like a monkey hurling its poo?
"Steam does a hell of a job for Valve and a really poor job for the little guy." What the hell are you talking about? Explain, please. Because for the life of me I can't see how "the little guy" is getting screwed, while "the big guy" (Valve, I assume from your previous implications of lazy corporate pigs?) is getting a manicure and a blowjob from the quiet asian girl in the back. Steam has created significant headaches and operational costs for Valve. Hopefully the Friends list will start working for real soon, and hopefully when everything settles down we'll start seeing more smaller patches more often. But don't bash it just because you're an idiot.
"This list is about 80% filled with frustration when you read the mails."
This list is about 80% filled with ignorant bullshit and pathetic whining when you read the mails. I wonder if the Win32 HLDS list is this bad, or if people like you are just another one of those shitstains on Tux that you have to put up if you want to run Linux.
-- Eric (the Deacon remix)
In a bold display of creativity, Mihai Badila wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 09:14:50PM +0100 or thereabouts, Mark Ellis wrote:
Well we all need personal time but while Valve are down the beach I and many others are sitting here putting servers back up as fast as they are taken down because the smart guys at mygot release this info end of the week knowing that there will be 3-4 days before valve even start to look at a fix.
We had a beta test and what a joke that was one map slow updates you could hardly call it a beta more just a hardware test.
Agreed.
Like many others I think valve is too slow at releasing these fixes, we all moved over to steam so they could send out lots of small fixes fast but from what I can see steam is just a way of them collecting more data on users than rolling out fixes.
Steam is primary a money making machine. Its purpose is also delivering patches, content etc. but think.. Steam does a hell of a job for Valve and a really poor job for the little guy [valve steam product user]. And yes INDEPENDENCE from Vivendi [forgot about that one].
I'm not against Steam but no other company has ever used such a method of control for the money.
This list is about 80% filled with frustration when you read the mails. Kinda makes you think cs, dod and others were doing fine back in the days when they were free.
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