Using any cheat program can result in a ban, no matter the subset of its functionality you actually use. If you want to alter cvar values then set "sv_cheats 1" for the period you want it altered. Using cheats at any time is a violation of the Steam Subscriber Agreement (and always has been).
- Alfred -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? Vulgarisms? When was I vulgar? The worst I said was "scum"...oh heavens no, I said scum, I used a horrible word!!! Like seriously, grow up and get over it. I presented my opinion of his abuse of a cheat on his own "cheat protected server". Don't like it? Too bad. That's what happens when you post in a public forum. r_3dsky is listed as a cheat cvar by Valve, in this case they are god. Their game, their code, their choice. I don't recall why they chose to make it a cheat, and honestly I dont care since it has no effect on me. They made the change intentionally though, because it was made a cheat after the release of CSS, probably due to some sort of abuse that cheaters/hackers discovered. Maybe Alfred will answer your question and maybe he won't, and quite frankly "He" doesn't have to just because you say so. Dagok ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ondřej Hošek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 actually detecting & banning? > Okay. > > I have looked through the message history of this mailing list. > > Now, I would like to ask a question. Anybody who starts flaming me > will be classified as a lesser life form (and I will casually reply > with an FU), since I don't need your "you are an idiot/cheater > scum/...", I would like to have _real_ answers. Just because "God" > classified r_doohickey as a cheat and somebody got impaled on it by > making some fixes doesn't mean you have to start a Hitler-like attack > against them if they come in and want to clarify under which > circumstances it happened. Just because there is a line somewhere in > the license agreement stating that "we don't unban whiners" doesn't > mean you have to take your flamethrowers and send vulgarisms all over > the place. I wouldn't personally classify Vapor as a whiner. > > Now, after my rant about the pointlessness of such flames, to my question: > > How The Hell Can Somebody Misuse A Change Of r_3dsky So That It Became > Classified As A Cheat? > > Now I don't want things like this: > > (Quote Clayton Macleod): > heh, doofus > valve says it's a cheat, so eat it. > > As I said, if "God" can't supply a valid reason to this question, then > "He" should make the variable a non-cheat. > > Honestly, "Yadda yadda Valve yadda yadda cheat yadda yadda FU." is a > pretty useless answer. I can't say I like this, but I don't want to > start a flame war, so in case somebody attacks me (for example the > infamous C. Macleod), he really has to be of limited brains. If you > don't know when to stop, you're not far from becoming a fanatic. > > Oh, and don't make Valve sound like they're a deity. They are only an > assortment of humans, just like this mailing list. > > ~~ Ondra > > P.S. I know that using a program to freeze r_3dsky to 0 is a cheat. > But it's Valve's job to go against the cheaters. You can support > Valve, but the punishing part is to be left to the ones in charge. If > you disagree with them, don't play their games. > > Dagok wrote: > >> As already said if you set sv_cheats 0 on the server, there are a >> series of cvars that are banned. >> r_3dsky is one of these cvars. Using any utilities or hacks to >> achieve the use of these cvars is a cheat. >> >> Furthermore if an admin is providing a "cheat free" server and then >> using a cheat to circumvent their own server settings, yes that makes >> them scum in my opinion. >> >> If you want to use r_3dsky then set sv_cheats 1 on the server so that >> everyone can use it. >> >> Dagok >> >> m0gely wrote: >> >>> Dagok wrote: >>> >>>> Admins that abuse their own server to cheat while claiming to >>>> provide a cheat free server are scum...plain and simple. >>>> >>>> Dagok >>> >>> >>> He ran an app that increases the client's FPS by disabling a high >>> quality sky. What is the matter with you people? So he's scum for >>> that? That's a cheat? You answer questions that were never asked. >>> He only wanted to know if the beta was banning people and Alfred >>> said it wasn't suppose to if it did. >>> >>> -- >>> - m0gely >>> http://quake2.telestream.com/ >>> Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
