Hmm, I think I remember you. I was here 4 years ago when you left (has it really been that long?). If you are the Eric I remember, you had (still have?) a sharp tongue, and half of us missed you while the other half of us were glad you left LOL. Yes, not much has changed here. The ratio of good stuff to crap is pretty much the same, only the total volume has gone up a bit. And we still whine and cry about the littlest thing. Valve does not censor this list, and that is a good thing. I've been on moderated forums, and the moderators almost always get to anal and heavy handed with their censoring until good people leave and there is not enough volume left to sustain the list. I can handle the crap. I learn a lot from the OT posts, and there is entertainment value from some of the ... um...people ... here. Let's keep this list the way it is.
Since I've been spending the last 20 minutes or so adjusting my filters to help me weed out this noisy conversation, I feel inclined to make a comment. I was on this list probably about 4 years ago. Since I rejoined it a week ago I see there's not much difference, only more people. The bickering and whining over topics that are best left ignored (such as, "what is the purpose of this list?") still dominate the list while the actual goals of the list, such as helping people with hlds on linux are drowned in a sea of meta-"planning" and ... crap. What I would like to get out of this list is a place to mingle with fellow game server administrators, be they GSP's or not (I work for a GSP, to disclaim), and let moderators decide if they want to shape the list in a certain way. There is no need to reply to every single little thing on the list. If someone wants to fan the flames, do all of us a favor by NOT replying to them and creating even more spam. That said, I'm going to go back to lurking through this crap and wishing it stops plaguing my inbox. If someone wants to propose a list or newsgroup with stronger moderation and focus and can guarantee cross posts from the valve people, I'm all ears and am willing to provide servers, administration, and moderation help. I am not interested in running a gamer community (been there, done that, got the t-shirt and burned it), but am more than willing to help. Thanks for letting me vent, -- Erik Hollensbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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