I agree, valve used to be good to the community, and in many ways still are. They are the one to stride for when it comes to company<->community interactions, and that on several levels.
I've been on this list since 2000 and there is no other company that can messure to the support we have got. On top of that you have a exelent plugin API (at least for hlds), easy command interface and they have made a stand against cheaters. But lately the quality of all this have gone downhill. The latest hlds upgrades have been a pain in the ass for us, counting from the first upgrade this year. (around may/june) Thats when I started to see a higher choke problems and reported it to the list. Apperently "noone" else had this issues, so I dropped it and thought it had something todo with my servers or network. Then a couple of month later when Valve released a new patch, that introduced threading I started to get a lot of crashes. On a normal day we got around 60 crashes, but all time high was about 80 crashes. I reported it in and still "noone" on the list had any problems. Now we are up to the v24->v27 crash issues. And everyone started to see crashes. And even those crashes that I reported months earlier. I would suggest that Valve get someone to go through all the code from each patch they released and se whats wrong. Hopefully they have a CVS of some kind. Even with these latest problems, I still consider Valve to be the one that every other gamecompany should copy from. A lot of developers have tried to integrate admin systems or improve serverside setups. Epic, Dice and even ID have a long way to go on these issues. Serveradmins want simplicity on setting up a server. Gameadmin wants simplicity to administrate a gameserver. I cant find any game that matches these points exept them from valve. /Bjorn On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, LuZiFeR wrote: > You are right, when you find fault on valve with their Test-Equipment > (Kernel-Tests on Update)... > > But i have never seen a Distributor, that is so close (and fast) to his > important customers (server administrators).... > > Where on earth you have so quick reactions on problems ? > > I think nowhere.... > > Critism is good, but don't overdo it.... :) > > Regards LuZi > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Dezember 2005 00:37 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike: Source update released > > > Recently, Valve Inc has hit an all-time LOW on software releases, poorly > tested, no release notes, no support apart from 'alfred' who kinda knows > what hes doing when people report the problems HIS company should have > spotted.... > > > COME ON VALVE wake up and smell the coffee, this has been far from > acceptable in recent weeks. > > To 'Alfred' when are you going to release FULL and INSTRUCTIVE information > on your server software so that we dont have to rely on rumour and hearsay. > > > T > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
