-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I bet Valve have been wanting to figure out a way to kill of HL1/CS 1.6 for ages.
I guess they worked out how. :) On 3/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Bryan, hi folks. > > So did we! We have shutdown all CounterStrike1.6 servers so far until > valve > roll back or gives administrator an option to disable ANY advertisement > serverside (so client dont see any advertisement when on their servers!). > > Valve has no costs at all to run our servers. In fact they try to make > money > with our knowledge, our infrastructure and our machines - our money! For a > hoster its a nono to place advertisments for competitors but valve tries > to > force them to do so. any promises of valve are worthless if they would > state > not to do so. they have thrown away our trust in them and we will not > believe anything of valve but things the DO. words are patient - we are > not. > > And to all hosters: shut down your cs1.6 servers, place a statement on > your > page why. Tell your customers that valve is responsible and they may > consult > THEM. Ofcourse that will cause to pay back some money to the customers but > if we dont do it now, then valve will come away with this bad attitude. > > Dont let them get away with this!!! > > Simon > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bryan > Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads > > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In game > advertising is wrong. Should they push it to CSS then we will shut that > server > down as well. > Crazy_One > David Williams wrote: > > if you read tyhe TOS it states that valve can change of modify them > without notice and at will. Also you have no case to return the game for > an excahnge as youare outside (in th UK atleast) the maximum time you > are allowed to do so (this is 30 days). You could try complaining to > valve but considering the first page of this you'd have a job getting > what you want. > > At the end of the day there is nothing we can do short of shutting down > the servers to whatever period in time we choose. It's just i have a > feeling that considering there is a large amount of money involved on > our end i don't think that will happen. > > We'll just have to put up and shut up and deal with the cards we have > been dealt. > > Thomas S. Crum - AAA Web Solution wrote: > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > It would clearly be a breach of implied contract. Any judge understands > paid for software is different than ad supported software and furthermore > the software was initially purchased and used without ads. Now the deal > was changed without your agreement. > > Have you contacted Valve for a refund of your money, since you no longer > agree with the updated terms of use? I would start there. > > A tweak here or there can be made w/in a TOS, but I would argue this is a > material change and a breach of contract if they don't refund your money. > Under deposition I would determine if this wasn't planned even years > before. Now we get into that whole tort thing that gets you punitive > damages... Big$. lol > > Furthermore, does it clearly state that the ads are part of Valve and not > the server itself that you are playing on? If not, then as a server owner > I want to share in the revenue. > > If they won't give you a refund, find some attorney. This would definitely > fall into "class" action status. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Parker Lewis > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads > > > First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them. > Mostly the annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played > deathmatch/gungame? A 3 seconds delayed spawning makes this > ad really disturbing..). > > The question I have is: Is it legal? You can apply it on > everything: buying something ad-free, which is unstoppable > selfupdating to another ad-version, is against my > understanding of a contract of sell. But probably I'm right > and we have the right to bring the game back receiving the > money - but we wont do it ;). > > As a customer of HL:CS Im feeling a little bit twit by Valve. > But again, I could exchange the game :). > > If someone starts some action against this (e.g. a day > shutting down / password protecting all of our servers), I > woul thankful participate. Just to let out my disaffection. > And to let out some tears.. > > Moreover I can't do more, as activating a bunch of plugins, > anti-advertising the Valve ads. I know, this is really > childish. But what to do else? Taking Valve to court? :) > > > --- Frederick P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[4] schrieb: > > > > > Well, they are finally here... a lot of negative feedbacks > > > > so far... I > > > > personally don't see the reason to have in game Ads. People paid > for the > product, they deserve having a product without Ads. It makes more > sense for > a Free version of CS 1.6 to be released that has Ad support and > also giving > an "option" for people to buy the game which will remove the Ads. > This is > truly annoying. Valve only has vac and authentication servers, > Valve isn't > the company that hosts the actual game servers for people to play > on. I > don't see any reason for this idea to be added to Ad unless if it > is a > marketing scheme to kill off CS 1.6 and get people into CS Source. > > Feedback? > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > > list archives, > > > > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux[5] > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen > Yahoo! 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