So I've heard. I remember using gentoo a couple years ago, compiling
everything was the only reason I didn't stay. And apt and .deb packaging is
just awesome, I can recompile if required and push packages to all my
machines. Has gentoo adopted packaging at all?



On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Kveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> try gentoo, everything in testing branch (~) is pretty stable.
>
> Kveri
>
> J T  wrote / napĂ­sal(a):
> > I've had debian installed for some time and its a great distro. However
> it
> > takes longer for versions of specific software to make its way into the
> > stable branch. And sometimes testing can become pretty unstable.
> >
> > I'm starting to like ubuntu more.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Kveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Nothing but true :).
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 10 Nov 2008, at 11:04, Crazy Canucks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Can't help you with your specific problem, and this is a bit ot, but
> >>> stick with Linux, you'll be happy you did.  I switched from Windows to
> >>> Linux, and yes, it was a steep learning curve, but once I started
> >>> figuring things out, I was extremely happy I did.
> >>>
> >>> Just an example of the benefits:
> >>>
> >>> I host game servers for my clan on the weekend, and I host our website
> >>> on the the same box as the game servers.  When I start up the game
> >>> server, I take down the full website, and put up a minimal one in it's
> >>> place.  Anyway, on Windows, I used to have a check list, with about 20
> >>> steps on it for starting up and shutting down the game servers.
> >>>
> >>> I now have scripts that have replaced those twenty steps with one.  I
> >>> have a script that I run to start the servers, and I enter the name of
> >>> the game I want to play, the script handles everything else, and a
> >>> cron
> >>> script shuts down the game server and puts back up the full website in
> >>> the morning after the game nights.
> >>>
> >>> My servers are bandwidth challenged.  When I switched to Linux I was
> >>> able to essentially double the update rate for my servers.  I can only
> >>> guess that Windows attaches some kind of bulky header to the packets
> >>> which Linux doesn't.  Switching to Linux was the smartest thing I've
> >>> ever done for my clan servers.
> >>>
> >>> Drek
> >>>
> >>> Arthur wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Any hints as to which packages? New to Linux its proving a steep
> >>>> learning
> >>>> curve - windows is so much easier :(
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>>> Jordy van
> >>>> Wolferen
> >>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 7:22 PM
> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
> >>>> filesavailable
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is only for an AMD64 box.
> >>>> Maybe you can update the necessary packages for 32 bit, without
> >>>> upgrading to lenny.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:33 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Its a 32bit intel box,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>>>> Jordy van
> >>>>> Wolferen
> >>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 5:17 PM
> >>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
> >>>>> filesavailable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did you keep the ia32-libs installed? You still need them
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:40 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Never mind :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Relised i forgot to extract the .deb file, however still doesnt
> >>>>>> work
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> running
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb
> >>
> >>>>>> Just segmentation faults on start up,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyideas?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 4:20 PM
> >>>>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
> >>>>>> filesavailable
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Few questions for you,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> a) how do you remove the LD_PRELOAD paramater?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> b) output of my console now
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Could not locate steam binary:./steam, ignoring.
> >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >>>>>> Failed to open bin/dedicated_i486.so (/lib/tls/libc.so.6: version
> >>>>>> `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by bin/dedicated_i486.so))
> >>>>>> Add "-debug" to the ./srcds_run command line to generate a
> >>>>>> debug.log to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> help
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> with solving this problem
> >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >>>>>> Mon Nov 10 16:18:51 EST 2008: Server restart in 10 seconds
> >>>>>> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/games/l4d/temp/libc6_2.7-15_i386.deb'
> >>>>>> from
> >>>>>> LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dual Core2 Quad Box running debian
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> Jordy van
> >>>>>> Wolferen
> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 12:14 PM
> >>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated Server
> >>>>>> filesavailable
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I fixed it on my Debian Etch AMD64 server.
> >>>>>> I used this package:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libc6-i386
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> wget
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>
> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.de
> >>
> >>>>>> b
> >>>>>> ar x libc6-i386_2.7-15_amd64.deb
> >>>>>> tar xvzf data.tar.gz
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Then LD_PRELOAD the lib like this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> export LD_PRELOAD=/home/l4d/tmp/lib32/libc-2.7.so (ofcourse your
> >>>>>> path
> >>>>>> to that file)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Run that before you start your server.
> >>>>>> It seems to run fine :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Jordy van Wolferen <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you do find a way to make a deb, let us know, so we can use
> >>>>>>> it too :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 11:37 -0800, J T wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Debian Etch is the latest stable. The main reason why it has
> >>>>>>>> libc6 2.3
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> because 2.3 still supports kernel 2.4, in the next release of
> >>>>>>>> lenny it
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ship with libc6 2.7 which should correct the problem.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If you have the choice of installing a new OS, choose ubuntu,
> >>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> they
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> seem to have newer version of most packages. Debian is sometimes
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> doesn't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> include newer packages.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm looking at possibly trying to get glibc into a .dpkg so I
> >>>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> have
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> run debootstrap.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:22 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No and yes... it's the most recent stable release of debian.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-
> >>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CNU
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: 07 November 2008 19:20
> >>>>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead Demo Dedicated
> >>>>>>>>>> Server
> >>>>>>>>>> filesavailable
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Are everyone running Debian Etch here or something? Isn't it
> >>>>>>>>>> like...ancient?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> CNU
> >>>>>>>>>>
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