The first part..
> So you guys are looking for something like this? > > 09:59:21 stats > 09:59:21 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:37: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:21 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:22 stats > 09:59:22 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:38: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:22 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:22 stats > 09:59:22 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:38: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:22 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.50 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:23 stats > 09:59:23 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:39: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:23 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.50 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:23 stats > 09:59:23 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:39: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:23 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.50 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:24 stats > 09:59:24 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:40: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:24 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > 09:59:25 stats > 09:59:25 og L 11/12/2008 - 09:56:41: Rcon: "rcon 1696617158 > "defaultrcon" stats" from "69.245.91.0:7130" > 09:59:25 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 3.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 1000.00 0 > > or... > > 10:01:28 stats > 10:01:28 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 4.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > 10:01:33 stats > 10:01:33 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 4.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > 10:01:34 stats > 10:01:34 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 2.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > 10:01:34 stats > 10:01:34 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 1.67 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > 10:01:34 stats > 10:01:35 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 1.67 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > 10:01:35 stats > 10:01:35 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players > 2.00 0.00 0.00 0 0 500.00 0 > > Kveri wrote: > >> Hlds - cs 1.6 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 12 Nov 2008, at 14:48, Joseph Laws <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm sorry but which game are you guys going back and forth about? >>> >>> xLnT wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Then game-hosting.com is faking their stats output. They have stable >>>> 1000fps and drops down to 500fps exactly. >>>> Not 501 or 499 but 500fps.. once in a while.. otherwise it's >>>> 1000fps stable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> There is no chance of running 1000fps stable server on any >>>>> hardware, YOU >>>>> CAN'T GET 1000FPS STILL server. I'm running 998-1000fps server on >>>>> celeron 1,8GHz. >>>>> >>>>> Kveri >>>>> >>>>> tuorpeZ wrote / napísal(a): >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Has someone succeed to get a stable 1000fps hlds on a core2duo ? >>>>>> I tryed a lot of different kernel configurations but I never >>>>>> achieve to >>>>>> get FPS close to 1000 for a long time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here what I've already tested (64bits) : >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.24.5 default >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.24.5 1000HZ >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ No preempt >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ preempt >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1500HZ preempt (With USER_HZ=1500) >>>>>> Kernel 2.6.26.6 1000HZ preempt + RT patch >>>>>> >>>>>> Neither of those kernels achieve to get a stable +/- 900 fps >>>>>> except for >>>>>> the RT kernel : >>>>>> >>>>>> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >>>>>> 71.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 930.23 0 >>>>>> stats >>>>>> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >>>>>> 70.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 855.43 0 >>>>>> >>>>>> BUT 70% CPU without players ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Other kernels cause some drops to 300FPS. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that my box (c2duo 2x2Ghz) simply can't compute 1000fps for >>>>>> HLDS... I think that it is only possible on a Xeon/Opteron CPU. >>>>>> Am I wrong ? Did someone succeed to get 1000fps on other than a >>>>>> "server >>>>>> class" CPU (ie Xeon/Opteron) ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- tuorpeZ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> en3my a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> None. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Default 2.6.26.6 kernel with config i've included in prev. mail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One more thing i forgot to suggest - try to disable almost every >>>>>>> feature in >>>>>>> MB's BIOS - COM, LPT, USB, Sound, etc. I don't have proof that >>>>>>> they really >>>>>>> mess your FPS, but belive they do :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Philipp Reddigau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:13 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Enemy >>>>>>>> Wich Kernel patches are you using? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> best regards, >>>>>>>> Philipp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> en3my schrieb: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Speaking on the subject... I was trying to archive 1000FPS >>>>>>>>> performance on >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> dual quad box for few months under Debian Linux. Best result >>>>>>>>> i've got is >>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>> using latest kernel (im using 2.6.26.5) with kernel config you >>>>>>>>> can get at >>>>>>>>> http://2po.eu/downloads/custom/www.2po.eu_linux_kernel_2.6.26.6.config >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But i suggest anyone to experiment with "IO Schedulers", all >>>>>>>>> the settings >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> "Processor type and features", try to disable all the "Power >>>>>>>>> Managment", >>>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>>> kernel param "acpi=off" (append="acpi=off" for lilo.conf). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When dealing with lot of servers on one physical box (i have 8 >>>>>>>>> physical >>>>>>>>> cores and allow to run about 20 HLDS's and few HLDSS's at same >>>>>>>>> time) you >>>>>>>>> must experiment with affinities ("man taskset" in Linux) and >>>>>>>>> priorities >>>>>>>>> ("man renice"). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And as it was suggested before in this maillist - if you're >>>>>>>>> using 4+ GB >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> ram, use 64bit distro. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:13 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take it easy :) I didn't say they "hacked" it. >>>>>>>>>> Since CPU values have been known to be reported incorrectly, >>>>>>>>>> there's >>>>>>>>>> no reason why fps values would *always* be reliable and >>>>>>>>>> accurate. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In response to OP, try running 1000hz, not tickless kernel. >>>>>>>>>> Kveri has >>>>>>>>>> suggested doing so in the past. I think it's worth a shot. >>>>>>>>>> Please let >>>>>>>>>> us know of your findings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:15 PM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 Faustas: >>>>>>>>>>> I think if they've hacked the output of "stats - fps" value, >>>>>>>>>>> they would >>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>> change the "stats - cpu use" field. Don't they? :) Any way, >>>>>>>>>>> not me nor >>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>> friends have a single complain about GH.com servers. That's >>>>>>>>>>> why i >>>>>>>>>>> belive >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> text i see in "stats" command and i belive stable 1000 fps >>>>>>>>>>> is possible >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> archive (under Linux, don't know about others OS's). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2 J T: >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not advertising any companies hosting. I've just told that >>>>>>>>>>> "perfect" >>>>>>>>>>> server is a real thing :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:55 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -pingboost 3 only gives "speeded servers" when used in >>>>>>>>>>>> combination >>>>>>>>>>>> with "sys_ticrate 10000". >>>>>>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 with sys_ticrate 1000 will not cause any >>>>>>>>>>>> "speed >>>>>>>>>>>> related" problems at all. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On an unrelated, personal and subjective side note, I >>>>>>>>>>>> haven't seen >>>>>>>>>>>> more than 0.75% CPU usage via "rcon stats" on any of the >>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned >>>>>>>>>>>> GSPs HLDS servers with 10 players on them two years ago. >>>>>>>>>>>> Which made me >>>>>>>>>>>> think the whole output might have been false. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM, J T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it? Are you advertising that game-hosting.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> gives >>>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>>> "performance"? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can has performance? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Use sys_ticrate 1000 not 10000, Kveri >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:47 AM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you've managed to get 970+ FPS without constant drops >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 500-750 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lucky one or linux/HLDS guru :) I belive even CS pro- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> players won't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to feel the drops on your server. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best example to ensure yourself that stable 1000FPS is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HLDS from www.game-hosting.com (im using hosting in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sweden). I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> how many HLDSs they have on one box/cpu core, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance they >>>>>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "xLnT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:43 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no other services running but opensshserver, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 you get a speeded server. And this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have speeded servers. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but with no other services running, like apache mysql >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hlds. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> xLnT wrote / napísal(a): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is one provider that have 1000fps constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with drops >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500fps sometimes) on their server, or perhaps they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faking the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "rcon stats". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried asking them, but no luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So youre telling me its not possible? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Stanley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:52 AM 11/9/2008, xLnT wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am really bothered, what is it that makes hlds NOT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to use max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources from the server? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A gameserver reaches 1000fps sometimes.. but mostly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 970-985fps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not going to able be able to run it that high >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt latency, scheduler latency, and a bunch of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause the drops. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view 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