@John What is the correct hardware? And what kernel optimization? Does the choise of distro and scheduler depend on it?
Regards P.s Feel free to send me an email.. > It is entirely possible to maintain a constant 1000fps for HL1-based servers > on Linux without faking it. In fact it would probably be harder to fake it > than to actually do it. The right hardware combined with appropriate kernel > optimization options and -pingboost 2 make it possible. > > -John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "xLnT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:41 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem > > > Then game-hosting.com is faking their stats output. They have stable > 1000fps and drops down to 500fps exactly. > Not 501 or 499 but 500fps.. once in a while.. otherwise it's 1000fps stable. > > > >> There is no chance of running 1000fps stable server on any hardware, YOU >> CAN'T GET 1000FPS STILL server. I'm running 998-1000fps server on >> celeron 1,8GHz. >> >> Kveri >> >> tuorpeZ wrote / napísal(a): >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Has someone succeed to get a stable 1000fps hlds on a core2duo ? >>> I tryed a lot of different kernel configurations but I never achieve to >>> get FPS close to 1000 for a long time. >>> >>> Here what I've already tested (64bits) : >>> Kernel 2.6.24.5 default >>> Kernel 2.6.24.5 1000HZ >>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ No preempt >>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1000HZ preempt >>> Kernel 2.6.27.4 1500HZ preempt (With USER_HZ=1500) >>> Kernel 2.6.26.6 1000HZ preempt + RT patch >>> >>> Neither of those kernels achieve to get a stable +/- 900 fps except for >>> the RT kernel : >>> >>> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >>> 71.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 930.23 0 >>> stats >>> CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players >>> 70.00 0.00 0.00 15 2 855.43 0 >>> >>> BUT 70% CPU without players ! >>> >>> Other kernels cause some drops to 300FPS. >>> >>> I think that my box (c2duo 2x2Ghz) simply can't compute 1000fps for >>> HLDS... I think that it is only possible on a Xeon/Opteron CPU. >>> Am I wrong ? Did someone succeed to get 1000fps on other than a "server >>> class" CPU (ie Xeon/Opteron) ? >>> >>> >>> --- tuorpeZ >>> >>> >>> en3my a écrit : >>> >>> >>> >>>> None. >>>> >>>> Default 2.6.26.6 kernel with config i've included in prev. mail. >>>> >>>> One more thing i forgot to suggest - try to disable almost every feature >>>> in >>>> MB's BIOS - COM, LPT, USB, Sound, etc. I don't have proof that they >>>> really >>>> mess your FPS, but belive they do :) >>>> >>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>> en3my >>>> www.2Po.eu >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Philipp Reddigau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:13 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> @Enemy >>>>> Wich Kernel patches are you using? >>>>> >>>>> best regards, >>>>> Philipp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> en3my schrieb: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Speaking on the subject... I was trying to archive 1000FPS performance >>>>>> on >>>>>> my >>>>>> dual quad box for few months under Debian Linux. Best result i've got >>>>>> is >>>>>> by >>>>>> using latest kernel (im using 2.6.26.5) with kernel config you can get >>>>>> at >>>>>> http://2po.eu/downloads/custom/www.2po.eu_linux_kernel_2.6.26.6.config >>>>>> >>>>>> But i suggest anyone to experiment with "IO Schedulers", all the >>>>>> settings >>>>>> in >>>>>> "Processor type and features", try to disable all the "Power >>>>>> Managment", >>>>>> try >>>>>> kernel param "acpi=off" (append="acpi=off" for lilo.conf). >>>>>> >>>>>> When dealing with lot of servers on one physical box (i have 8 >>>>>> physical >>>>>> cores and allow to run about 20 HLDS's and few HLDSS's at same time) >>>>>> you >>>>>> must experiment with affinities ("man taskset" in Linux) and >>>>>> priorities >>>>>> ("man renice"). >>>>>> >>>>>> And as it was suggested before in this maillist - if you're using 4+ >>>>>> GB >>>>>> of >>>>>> ram, use 64bit distro. >>>>>> >>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>> en3my >>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:13 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Take it easy :) I didn't say they "hacked" it. >>>>>>> Since CPU values have been known to be reported incorrectly, there's >>>>>>> no reason why fps values would *always* be reliable and accurate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In response to OP, try running 1000hz, not tickless kernel. Kveri has >>>>>>> suggested doing so in the past. I think it's worth a shot. Please let >>>>>>> us know of your findings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:15 PM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 Faustas: >>>>>>>> I think if they've hacked the output of "stats - fps" value, they >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> change the "stats - cpu use" field. Don't they? :) Any way, not me >>>>>>>> nor >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> friends have a single complain about GH.com servers. That's why i >>>>>>>> belive >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> text i see in "stats" command and i belive stable 1000 fps is >>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> archive (under Linux, don't know about others OS's). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2 J T: >>>>>>>> I'm not advertising any companies hosting. I've just told that >>>>>>>> "perfect" >>>>>>>> server is a real thing :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Faustas Buskevicius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:55 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -pingboost 3 only gives "speeded servers" when used in combination >>>>>>>>> with "sys_ticrate 10000". >>>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 with sys_ticrate 1000 will not cause any "speed >>>>>>>>> related" problems at all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On an unrelated, personal and subjective side note, I haven't seen >>>>>>>>> more than 0.75% CPU usage via "rcon stats" on any of the mentioned >>>>>>>>> GSPs HLDS servers with 10 players on them two years ago. Which made >>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>> think the whole output might have been false. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:12 PM, J T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't get it? Are you advertising that game-hosting.com gives >>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> "performance"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can has performance? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Use sys_ticrate 1000 not 10000, Kveri >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:47 AM, en3my <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you've managed to get 970+ FPS without constant drops to >>>>>>>>>>> 500-750 >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> lucky one or linux/HLDS guru :) I belive even CS pro-players >>>>>>>>>>> won't >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>> to feel the drops on your server. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Best example to ensure yourself that stable 1000FPS is possible >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> rent >>>>>>>>>>> HLDS from www.game-hosting.com (im using hosting in Sweden). I >>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>> how many HLDSs they have on one box/cpu core, but performance >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> give >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> just amazing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- >>>>>>>>>>> en3my >>>>>>>>>>> www.2Po.eu >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "xLnT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:43 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The 1000fps problem >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have no other services running but opensshserver, >>>>>>>>>>>> Using -pingboost 3 you get a speeded server. And this provider >>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>> have speeded servers. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> but with no other services running, like apache mysql etc. Just >>>>>>>>>>>>> hlds. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> xLnT wrote / napísal(a): >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is one provider that have 1000fps constantly (with drops >>>>>>>>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500fps sometimes) on their server, or perhaps they are faking >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> output >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "rcon stats". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried asking them, but no luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So youre telling me its not possible? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary Stanley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 05:52 AM 11/9/2008, xLnT wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am really bothered, what is it that makes hlds NOT to use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> max >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resources from the server? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A gameserver reaches 1000fps sometimes.. but mostly its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 970-985fps. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not going to able be able to run it that high all the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt latency, scheduler latency, and a bunch of other 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