Still, Doing this locally (especially via iptables) does nothing to help or
stop a DDoS.

Your service provider has the responsibility of mitigating these attacks and
are the only people equipped to handle it.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James
Puckett
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2011 11:25 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] iptables mangling

Thats the issue, I've come across several instances of times where one of my
admins have banned someone for using a aimbot. Only to get the server
DRDDoS'd.

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Brian Rak <[email protected]> wrote:

> You think "most" users have the ability to DDoS a server? (not just 
> using some crappy flooding tool from their PC, but an actual DDoS?)  
> WTF kind of users do you have playing on your server?
>
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 8:55 PM, James Puckett < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The problem is, when you ban a user they will most likely DDoS you 
> > from
> my
> > experience as skiddies are becoming quite a problem in the community.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jesse Molina <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's not so much that he might be doing something that is causing 
> > > users
> > > harm: If he is, ban him.  Not my problem and everyone is better off.
> > >
> > > But whatever security protection he thinks he's getting is almost 
> > > certainly doing squat for him anyway, so he is going through a lot 
> > > of trouble for nothing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > msleeper wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm sure you think that what you're doing is noble, but having 
> > >> multiple IPs point to the same gameserver is cheating the system 
> > >> no matter how you look at it.
> > >>
> > >
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