> It's all feedback isn't it? If no one says "Hey my experience this > weekend trying to play TF2 or trying to host a server, sucks > because...", then they might not be aware. > > No one's expecting you to either agree with them or to do anything about it. > -- > Dan.
Well said. In my case, I was just providing more feedback, about how this was impacting servers that weren't even trying to use the new features - in fact, it was effecting those were were trying to AVOID using the new features. I was also trying to say, that I understand "its just a game". I don't run my servers for profit, or even ask for donations. It's a hobby to me. I have fun playing various games, so I try to provide a place for others to have fun too. I have been running HLDS stuff since circa 1999, although only in the last year or so have I transitioned to Linux. So, I am always careful to point out what "flavor" I am running too - just in case it's "flavor-specific". [PS: Personally, I wish Valve would target CentOS for the client-side port ahead of Ubuntu - but that's a whole different conversation. :-) ] I think this update's consequences really did catch Valve by surprise, and yeah maybe they could have tested it more. I would just like to ensure they have the best information that I can provide (which admittedly isn't much, beyond what everybody else has probably already submitted). I would also be nice to get regular updates from them saying that they are working on it, maybe some idea where the problem stems-from, and maybe a short-term work-around until there is a real fix. For a big update like this, honestly I think Valve should consider rolling-back and completely disabling the MvM and match-making stuff for wnow. I know that's probably a big-deal (for any internal politics, and marketing-wise, if not technically), but having deployed and supported $100,000,000+/year web-sites before - I have found-out the hard-way, that roll-back is ALWAYS better for the customers (and your revenue) than elongating the pain. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
